Re: “New” Steve Jones Thermite Paper – Reader Beware!

From: frankferg@aol.com

Date: 2009-04-07 01:46:55

towers turned to dust is the what happened on 9/11. Only after people understand what happen ed can they proceed to how what happened on 9/11 was accomplished.   Nanothermite cannot have dustifyed the WTC Towers in less than 10 sec., less than 10 minutes, less than 10 hours …     In a message dated 4/5/2009 7:38:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ad.johnson@ntlworld…. writes: This has recently been posted:   rawstory. com/news/ 2008/Scientists_ find_active_ superthermite_ in_WTC_0404. html   in various places. This is basically re-cycled information from about 18 months ago – and fails to explain the most unusual WTC evidence – “horseshoe bent” WTC beams, upside down cars, toasted cars, levitated people, lack of heat, towers turned to dust, hurricane erin etc.   When the opportunity presented itself, Steve Jones and his team failed to submit this sort of evidence in a legal challenge to NIST. Why? (Links to their submission documents below so you can read and keyword search them yourself).   It’s so difficult for people to see that so many in the alternative media are falling into the same trap as those in the Mainstream Media… (believing experts and not checking further evidence).   Let’s get one thing clear thermite MAY have been used in the WTC clean up, but there is no proof of this. Thermite does NOT turn steel to dust.   More questions and comments below:   www.checkthe evidence. co.uk/cms/ index.php? option=com_ content&task=view&id=222&Itemid=60   Collection of Notes and Questions for Steven E Jones, Richard Gage and Supporters and Promoters         Here are some questions that need to be answered – very urgently by Jones et al. Then we follow that with some statements of Steven E Jones, then we have more articles about his background and we analyse the role of Greg Jenkins in this “affair”. Why are so many people supporting a group which is seemingly unwilling or unable to submit their “best evidence” to due legal consideration?   Verifiable WTC Evidence to be Explained by Steven E Jones, Richard Gage et al drjudywood. com/wtc/ The Twin Towers were destroyed faster than physics can explain by a free fall speed “collapse.” They underwent mid-air pulverization and were turned to dust before they hit the ground. The protective bathtub was not significantly damaged by the destruction of the Twin Towers. The rail lines, the tunnels and most of the rail cars had only light damage, if any. The WTC underground mall survived well, witnessed by Warner Bros. Road Runner and friends. There were reports that “The Gap” was looted. The seismic impact was minimal, far too small based on a comparison with the Kingdome controlled demolition. The Twin Towers were destroyed from the top down, not bottom up. The demolition of WTC7 was whisper quiet and the seismic signal was not significantly greater than background noise. The upper 80 percent, approximately, of each tower was turned into fine dust and did not crash to the earth. The upper 90 percent, approximately, of the inside of WTC7 was turned into fine dust and did not crash to the earth. One file cabinet with folder dividers survived. No toilets survived or even recognizable portions of one. Windows of nearby buildings had circular and other odd-shaped holes in them. In addition to the odd window damage, the marble facade was completely missing from around WFC1 and WFC2 entry, with no other apparent structural damage. Fuzzballs, evidence that the dust continued to break down and become finer and finer. Truckloads of dirt were hauled in and hauled out of the WTC site, a pattern that continues to this day. Fuming of the dirt pile. Fuming decreased when watered, contrary to fumes caused by fire or heat. Fuzzyblobs, a hazy cloud that appeared to be around material being destroyed. The Swiss-Cheese appearance of steel beams and glass. Evidence of molecular dissociation and transmutation, as demonstrated by the near-instant rusting of affected steel. Weird fires. The appearance of fire, but without evidence of heating. Lack of high heat. Witnesses reported that the initial dust cloud felt cooler than ambient temperatures. No evidence of burned bodies. Columns were curled around a vertical axis like rolled-up carpets, where overloaded buckled beams should be bent around the horizontal axis. Office paper was densely spread throughout lower Manhattan, unburned, often along side cars that appeared to be burning. Vertical round holes were cut into buildings 4, 5 and 6, and into Liberty street in front of Bankers Trust, and into Vesey Street in front of WTC6, plus a cylindrical arc was cut into Bankers Trust. All planes except top secret missions were ordered down until 10:31 a.m. (when only military flights were allowed to resume), after both towers were destroyed, and only two minutes (120 seconds) after WTC 1 had been destroyed. Approximately 1,400 motor vehicles were towed away, toasted in strange ways, during the destruction of the Twin Towers. The order and method of destruction of each tower minimized damage to the bathtub and adjacent buildings. More damage was done to the bathtub by earth-moving equipment during the clean-up process than from the destruction of more than a million tons of buildings above it. Twin Tower control without damaging neighboring buildings, in fact all seriously damaged and destroyed buildings had a WTC prefix. The north wing of WTC 4 was left standing, neatly sliced from the main body which virtually disappeared. For more than seven years, regions in the ground under where the main body of WTC4 stood have continued to fume. The WTC1 and WTC2 rubble pile was far too small to account for the total mass of the buildings. The WTC7 rubble pile was too small for the total mass of the building and consisted of a lot of mud. Eyewitness testimony about toasted cars, instant disappearance of people by “unexplained” waves, a plane turning into a mid-air fireball, electrical power cut off moments before WTC 2 destruction, and the sound of explosions. Eyewitness testimony of Scott-pak explosions in fire trucks and fire trucks exploding that were parked near the WTC. There were many flipped cars in the neighborhood of the WTC complex near trees with full foliage. Magnetometer readings in Alaska recorded abrupt shifts in the earth’s magnetic field with each of the events at the WTC on 9/11. Hurricane Erin, located just off Long Island on 9/11/01, went virtually unreported in the days leading up to 9/11, including omission of this Hurricane on the morning weather map, even though that portion of the Atlantic Ocean was shown on the map. Sillystring, the appearance of curious cork-screw trails. Uncanny similarities with the Hutchison Effect, where the Hutchison Effect exhibits all of the same phenomena listed above. * Is it possible that such a technology exist? Since invention of the microwave for cooking in 1945 and lasers in 1955*, commercial and military development of directed-energy technology has proceeded apace, so use of directed-energy technology is likely to exist — and the data tells us it does exist. Questions for Steve Jones, Richard Gage and their Supporters    www.checkthe evidence. co.uk/cms/ index.php? option=com_ content&task=view&id=209&Itemid=60   Is Richard Gage ignoring some of the most important 9/11 Evidence? How many of the items below will he discuss on his European Tour? 1) Steven E Jones and a group of people submitted an RFC to NIST regarding the NCSTAR reports for WTC 1 & 2.   www.journalo f911studies. com/volume/ 200704/RFCtoNIST byMcIlvaineDoyle JonesRyanGageSTJ .pdf   www.journalo f911studies. com/volume/ 2007/AppealLette rToNISTGourleyEt Al.pdf    Why do these documents not mention Molten Metal anywhere in them? Why does it not mention Prof Jones OWN thermite tests – which are said to be “conclusive” ?   2) On May 8 2008, Prof Steven E Jones suggests the towers could have been destroyed with the help of Paint on Thermite – is Richard Gage familiar with this form of Thermite, and what does he think of this idea?   www.checkthe evidence. com/audio/ 911/SEJones/ Paint%20on% 20Thermate% 20-%209-11% 20Debate- Air%20America% 20-%20R%20Greene %20-%20S% 20Jones%2008% 20May%202008. mp3   3) Can Richard Gage comment on or explain inverted cars near the WTC on 9/11 and the exploding cars reported by witnesses such Patricia Ondrovich and the exploding Scott Packs (oxygen tanks) reported by some firefighters? www.drjudywo od.com/articles/ JJ/JJ1.html# lift   4) Can Richard Gage comment on the proximity of Hurricane Erin to NYC during the events of 9/11 (was he aware of its proximity and existence?   www.drjudywo od.com/articles/ erin/   5) Is Richard Gage and/or his group going to submit a Qui Tam fraud case against NIST’s contractors as Professor’s Morgan Reynolds and Professor Judy Wood have done (Dr Wood’s case is currently under appeal)  http://www.drjudywo od.com/articles/ NIST/Qui_ Tam_Wood. html More Questions (unanswered) for Steven E Jones and His Supporters   The Scientific Method Applied to the Thermite Hypothesis   drjudywood. com/articles/ scientific/ JonesScientificM ethod.html Steve Jones suggests 9/11 Truthers should irradiate themselves:   www.checkthe evidence. co.uk/cms/ index.php? option=com_ content&task=view&id=45&Itemid=60 www.youtube. com/watch? v=h71WsJMGdI8   30:05 -Jones: OK. One other exercise is that we have learned that with evidence we can learn a great deal so if there is an event and – we won’t even name a city[43] lets just say an American city – blamed on Iran, certainly there will be 9/11 truthers nearby and I hope they realize the importance of collecting a sample [right] whether that’s dust … [also radiation] right – having a radiation detector handy if you’ve got one – whether it’s Geiger – if you send me a sample I’d be glad to look at it and I’m sure you would too, Bill[44]. So, if there is such an event the point – the reason I’m emphasizing this is because it’s a bit of a warning if there are perpetrators thinking about – such another 9/11 they’d better think twice because 9/11 truthers are out there – we’re watching. We will get samples – we know what to do – evidence-based studies – we can do very quickly and we can put an end to lies – on the next 9/11 if it [inaudible] … which I hope we’ll avoid… is what I’m trying to say… Steve Jones suggests that the WTC was taken down using “Paint on Thermite” www.checkthe evidence. com/audio/ 911/SEJones/ Paint%20on% 20Thermate% 20-%209-11% 20Debate- Air%20America% 20-%20R%20Greene %20-%20S% 20Jones%2008% 20May%202008. mp3   Steve Jones Denies that 70 stories of WTC Steel Turned to Dust – it “Shook and Fell”   www.youtube. com/watch? v=uO9Iv_4ZfNI   Watch the video closely – who’s right? Steven Jones Suggests it’s Safe to Dip Wet Fingers in Molten Metal www.youtube. com/watch? v=Tou71StrOb0 Steve Jones Laughs when another 9/11 Scholar Loses their Job   www.youtube. com/watch? v=sdzx85klMYk   Provides no evidence of ad hominems – and thinks aluminium is harder than steel and denies Newton’s 3rd law is valid. “Thank goodness we DON’T have powerful spaced based weapons, Dr Jones!”   Also, how clever of Greg Jenkins to prove the towers are still there. If it took “5 times the energy output of the earth” to destroy the towers (turn them to dust) with  DEW, then it will have taken a similar amount of energy by other methods – including thermite. Can Steve Jones do energy calculations showing how any quantity of thermite can yield this amount of energy. What amount of thermite would be required to turn the towers to dust? Steve Jones Falsely Claims Molten Aluminium is “Silvery at All Temperatures in Daylight Conditions”   www.youtube. com/watch? v=OOnkCYFGH9Y   Dr Greg Jenkins Ambushes Dr Judy Wood at Midnight and Posts an Interview without Permission   www.checkthe evidence. co.uk/cms/ index.php? option=com_ content&task=view&id=46&Itemid=60    


Where is Greg Jenkins now? What 9/11 Research of His Own has he done? Has He Got A Website with new and updated research?   www.youtube. com/watch? v=_u7PC95XGEk   In the comments “RedlinedMeter” seems REALLY upset that people are asking these sorts of questions about Jenkins – neither of these people have an explanation as to why New Yorkers weren’t warned about Hurricane Erin – if its presence was a coincidence, it was a still a risk, like Katrina was to New Orleans.   Steven Jones’ Contributions to Science, Humanity and the Planet  (by CB Brooklyn) www.checkthe evidence. co.uk/cms/ index.php? option=com_ content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=60 WTC Molten Metal: Fact or Fiction? www.checkthe evidence. co.uk/cms/ index.php? option=com_ content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=60 Steve Jones’ Role in the Schism in 9/11 Scholars (But in the end, Fetzer’s no better…) The New “9/11 Hijackers”?   www.checkthe evidence. co.uk/cms/ index.php? option=com_ content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=60   Are you interested in what’s really going on in the world, behind the facade? Then…www.checkthe evidence. com/What happened on 9/11?www.drjudywo od.com/     A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

Related articles...

Comments are closed.