Re: Official UK Health Organisations Respond to Swine Flu Questions

From: Margaret S

Date: 2009-09-28 23:15:13

I signed an ePetition some weeks ago. I got the reply as below this morning. Maggie. You signed a petition asking the Prime Minister to “Ban the use of swine flu vaccinations due to the fact the vaccinations contain a man made weaponized swine flu virus which will cause death or serious injury to members of the public.” The Prime Minister’s Office has responded to that petition and you can view it here: www.number10.gov.uk/… Prime Minister’s Office Petition information – petitions.number10.g… If you would like to opt out of receiving further mail on this or any other petitions you signed, please email optout@petitions.pm…. *************************** Communicate * Ask the PM * …from the PM * e-Petitions * Petition Responses Monday 28 September 2009 Noswinevaccine – epetition response We received a petition asking: “We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to ban the use of swine flu vaccinations due to the fact the vaccinations contain a man made weaponized swine flu virus which will cause death or serious injury to members of the public.” Details of Petition: “the swine flu outbreak from mexico was not an accident it was an act of bioterrorism. charges have already been filled against the w.h.o. and u.n. and other groups and people with the fbi in austria by jane burgermeister. the swine flu virus is a man made bioweapon. the vaccines produced which are claimed to give immunity to the swine flu will not do so and in fact will result in massive loss of life. the 1918 spanish flu was also spread deliberately by vaccines and killed at least 20 million. this new man made swine flu virus is actually based on the 1918 spanish flu and contains human, bird and swine flu never before seen any where in the world. the government must cease and desist from the course of action which will result in the genocide of the population from vaccines containing swine flu weaponized virus.” · Read the petition · Petitions homepage Read the Government’s response Thank you for your e-petition. The European Medicines Agency (EMA) has strict processes in place for licensing pandemic vaccines. In preparing for a pandemic, appropriate trials to assess safety and the immune responses have been carried out on vaccines very similar to the swine flu vaccine. The vaccines have been shown to have a good safety profile. No decision has been taken to embark on a mass vaccination campaign, but any vaccination against swine flu would not be compulsory. Everyone has a right to refuse the swine flu vaccination, or any other vaccination. Where a child is too young to consent themselves to being vaccinated, the right to decide rests with the person with parental responsibility. There was no vaccine available to protect against the 1918/19 Spanish flu. However, the UK will be in the fortunate position of being able to offer protection to those most at risk from swine flu once the vaccine becomes available. People should be reassured that so far the virus is generally mild in most cases. However, it is proving more serious in some cases and sadly a small number of people have died. The World Health Organisation (WHO) advice is that serious cases should be treated immediately. The UK is one of the best-prepared countries in the world when it comes to dealing with the pandemic. We have a large stockpile of antivirals, and the vaccine is in the process of being licensed. NHS organisations have plans in place to cope with the effects of a pandemic. The Government will continue to take the best independent scientific advice to inform our decisions on vaccination issues. Further Information · Sign up to our newsletter service Tags: pandemic, swine flu, vaccination Share this: delicious logodelicious digg logodigg facebook logofacebook ********************************************** — In Cognoscence@yahoogro…, “Andrew Johnson” wrote: > >http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content > w&id=252&Itemid=75> &task=view&id=252&Itemid=75 > > Official UK Health Organisations Respond to Swine Flu Questions > > by Andrew Johnson, Sep 28 2009 > > Having studied some of the information which had been circulating regarding > the supposed Swine Flu Pandemic. which was either in progress or imminent, I > decided to ask some specific questions of UK Health Organisations which have > been involved in officially responding to the current scenario. > > > On 26th June I wrote to Derbyshire Health Authority (also known as > Derbyshire PCT – Primary Care Trust). This is a local, “county-based” > organisation, responsible for the Health of about 1 million people who live > in Derby and Derbyshire. Their responses to some questions indicated I > should pose the same questions to the “national health organisation” of the > UK – the Department of Health. > > > > Below, I have listed the questions I asked, followed by the organisation’s > response. In footnotes, I have included a commentary on their answers. > Finally, I include copies of my letters to them (without the list of > questions as they are shown earlier on), and the replies I have already > sent. > > > > Please make up your own mind as to what might be going on here, but the > bottom line as I see it is this: there has been massive spending and > planning for something (i.e. a pandemic) about which there is little or no > evidence is real or a real threat. Viewed in this way, it is reminiscent of > how the > terrorism act was passed in the UK in year 2000 and then 9/11 “conveniently” > happened in 2001. For those reading this that think 9/11 happened as we were > told and as a result of “previously assessed threats”, I would strongly > suggest you study the diverse evidence that > will prove that it was the result of something far, far more sophisticated > than a plot involving a rich Arabian family member and 19 disaffected Muslim > fundamentalists. I think what we are seeing might be preparations for a > false-flag health terrorism attack in the next 12-18 months – so I am hoping > that naming and “mapping out” this possibility may take away its power. > Additionally, I advise you to study the > alternative science behind the use of vaccines. > > > > Why don’t you write to your local/country’s health organisations and ask > these questions, or similar ones? > > > > > Derbyshire Health Authority Response – Received 19th Aug 2009 > > > > > Dear Mr Johnson, > > Please find the answers to the questions that you posed about swine flu. > > Regards, > > Joanne Chick > > Communications Assistant > > Babington Hospital > > > > Swine Flu response > > > > 1. Are you aware that an Austrian Journalist, Jane Burgermeister (who has > previously written for the UK Guardian Newspaper) has filed criminal charges > (in Austria and the USA) against Baxter Pharmaceuticals (and others) for > Bioterrorism for distributing live avian flu materials to 18 countries? > > > > No, we are not aware of this matter. > > > > 2. Are you aware that this same journalist has filed criminal charges > against a WHO official related to this incident? (These charges are included > in a document which is over 100 pages long.) > > > > No, we are not aware of this matter. > > > > 3. Are you aware that this same journalist has filed criminal charges > > against the Austrian Health Minister? > > > > No, we are not aware of this matter. > > > > > The Swine Flu “Threat” > > > > > 4. Can you state clearly why Swine Flu is perceived as being so threatening > – when so far no symptoms other than those of “normal” flu seem to have been > reported? > > > > The UK has been preparing for a possible flu pandemic for the last three to > four years. This has been on the basis that historical patterns of > infection suggested that a pandemic would emerge in this generation > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn1> [1]. These preparations were predicated on the > potential threat posed by Avian Flu (Influenza type H5N1) > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn2> [2]. In the event Swine Flu (Influenza type H1N1) > emerged which, while reaching pandemic proportions (pandemic referring to > the geographic spread of an infection, not its virulence), has so far proved > to be a milder infection in normally healthy people > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn3> [3]. We cannot comment on perceptions, but the > Chief Medical Officer, the Health Secretary (and his predecessor) and other > Government officials have been consistent in their commentary that this > infection is so far mild in most cases. Equally, in Derbyshire, our > communications work has stressed that this is so far proving to be a mild > infection in most cases > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn4> [4]. > > > > 5. Are you concerned at the extremely alarmist and mis-representative media > coverage which Swine flu is being subject to? (Do you have an intention or > policy to deal with this?) For example, repeated cases of death have been > reported, but in the next statement it has stated the person already had > “underlying health problems”. > > > > Local media have acted very responsibly and followed Derbyshire County PCT’s > current guidance that this is a mild infection in healthy people > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn5> [5]. The vast majority of national media > correspondents have also been responsible in supporting this message, which > aims to alert people to the potential for infection but reinforcing the very > simple measures, such as good hand hygiene and the `Catch It, Bin It, Kill > It’ message. We do not have a written policy on this matter, but we are > employing our normal approach to such public health messages, which is to > provide advice and reassurance, proportionate to the threat posed by any > infectious disease, including Swine Flu. We cannot comment on the reporting > of deaths from Swine Flu as at the time of writing we have been fortunate to > have no deaths in Derbyshire so have not been involved in any such > announcements. > > > > 6. Can you explain why many thousands or even millions of UK houses were > leafleted regarding Swine flu when it seems to be no worse than “normal” > flu? > > > > As per the answer at question 4, the UK has been preparing for a flu > pandemic for a number of years. Part of the national planning was to issue > a leaflet to all UK households once WHO Alert Phase 4 was declared and this > part of the plan was put into action in May 2009 > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn6> [6]. At this point, the potential virulence of > the Influenza Type H1N1 was not fully understood, nor is it at the time of > writing, so it was responsible of the UK Government to issue this advice to > the public. Had the infection proved more virulent, the UK public services > would have been very quickly criticised for not providing enough information > to the public, so this was a measured response > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn7> [7]. > > > > > Questions about the Vaccine and Tamiflu/Relenza > > > > > 7. Can you advise whether you have sourced doses of Swine Flu vaccine yet, > or if and when you plan to do so? > > > > The UK Government has arrangements in place with the pharmaceutical industry > for the sourcing of vaccine for Influenza Type H1N1, once this has been > prepared and tested > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn8> [8]. This process is well underway. Derbyshire > County PCT will receive a proportionate allocation of this vaccine once it > starts to become available, likely to be in September 2009. I refer you the > Department of Health who may be able to answer your question in more detail. > > > > 8. If you have sources vaccine doses, can you state which company or > companies will have manufactured the vaccines to be used? > > > > N/a. I refer you the Department of Health who may be able to answer your > question in more detail. > > > > 9. If a vaccine becomes available will, you advise GP’s, nurses and those > taking the vaccine of a detailed list of ingredients in the vaccine doses? > > > > As with all vaccinations and other medications, health professionals and > patients will have access to information about the chemical contents of > drugs and other treatments > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn9> [9]. > > > > 10. Will you list the possible side effects of taking the vaccine, and > their likelihood of manifestation? (Please consider carefully what happened > in the USA following the 1976 Swine Flu Scare). > > > > As with all vaccinations and other medications, health professionals and > patients will have access to information about related side effects > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn10> [10]. > > > > 11. What efforts will you be undertaking to inform the public of the > serious side effects reported by some of those who took tamiflu/releanza? > > > > We have no specific plans to inform the public of the side effects of any > individual medication > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn11> [11]. This information is readily available for > patients in consultation with their GP and is contained as part of general > information leaflets contained within all medications. We should point out > that every medication has many reported side effects and it is a requirement > of maintaining a licence in the UK that all drugs make this information > available to patients. Equally, it is inevitable that any given medication > may prompt an adverse reaction in a very small minority of patients > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn12> [12]. > > > > 12. Are drug companies in the UK immune (no pun intended) from prosecution > by those people that experience any serious or debilitating side effects > after having the vaccine? (As happened in 1976.) > > > > I refer you the Department of Health may be able to provide a response to > this question. > > > > > Plans for Administering of Vaccine > > > > > 13. What are the plans for administering the vaccine – e.g. is a policy in > place to issue letters through GP’s? > > > > Derbyshire County PCT are currently still in the process of planning > vaccinations and are not in a position to answer this yet > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn13> [13]. > > > > 14. What is the policy or plan for administering the vaccine in schools? > (Is there a plan and under what circumstances would this plan be > “activated”?) > > > > As above, we are currently still in the process of planning vaccinations and > are not in a position to answer this yet. > > > > > Role of the World Health Organisation (WHO) > > > > > In a WHO document “checklist for influenza pandemic preparedness planning”, > it is stated in Section 1.5.1 Legal and ethical issues > > (http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/influenza/FluCheck6web.pdf) > > > > ‘During a pandemic, it may be necessary to overrule existing legislation or > (individual) human rights. Examples are the enforcement of quarantine > (overruling individual freedom of movement), use of privately owned > buildings for hospitals, off-license use of drugs, compulsory vaccination or > implementation of emergency shifts in essential services. These decisions > need a legal framework to ensure transparent assessment and justification of > the measures that are being considered, and to ensure coherence with > international legislation (International Health Regulations). > > > > Hence: > > > > 15. Is Britain a signatory to this “checklist” or is EU, UK or other > legislation in place which would mean that this “checklist” can be applied > to UK citizens? > > I refer you the Department of Health who may be able to provide a response > to this question. > > > > > NHS Swine Flu Leaflet > > > > > 16. Are you concerned that there is inaccurate and alarmist information in > the leaflet distributed to millions of UK homes? For example: > > > > Because it’s a new virus, no one will have immunity to it and everyone could > be at risk of catching it. This includes healthy adults as well as older > people, young children and those with existing medical conditions. > > > > This is essentially false, because there are always some people that are > immune to new infections (perhaps because of their general level of fitness > and their choice of nutrition etc, which can affect the strength of their > immune response). > > > > General fitness and good health does not provide immunity to new infections, > but may promote a faster recovery period > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn14> [14]. Influenza Type H1N1 is a new strain of flu > which people in younger age groups will not have experienced previously and > will therefore not have immunity > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn15> [15]. It is set of circumstances which lead to > the development of a pandemic and accounts for the fact that people in older > age groups who may have experienced a `H1′ strain of flu in the past are not > presenting as frequently with symptoms at this stage > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn16> [16]. > > > > While the current situation is serious… > > > > 17. What makes a situation “serious”? Should we stop people from driving > cars and stop them drinking alcohol? These result in far more deaths every > day. > > > > The point you make is rhetorical. There is considerable activity across > public services to tackle dangerous driving and to reduce the level of > alcohol intake among certain population groups. A pandemic presents a > serious challenge to public life, although as I have said previously and as > the leaflet also points out, those who have been infected so far are > generally experiencing mild symptoms and are recovering well > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn17> [17]. > > > > 18. Why didn’t the leaflet include information on nutrition and taking > vitamins – for example vitamin D – which can boost the body’s immune > response? > > > > Good hand hygiene is the most effective way to prevent to spread of > infection > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn18> [18]. Clearly being in general good health and > by following a balanced healthy diet provides a better response from the > immune system when fighting infection > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn19> [19]. I should refer you to the Department of > Health for a fuller response to your question about the content of the > leaflet. > > > > > > Department of Health Response – Received 23rd Sep 2009 > > > > > Our ref: DE00000440236 > > > > Dear Mr Johnson, > > > > Thank you for your email of 24 August about swine flu. I have been asked to > reply. > > > > As you ask so many questions on a variety of aspects of swine flu, I will > answer them using the numbers used in your email. I have sought advice from > policy officials on several of the issues that you have raised. > > 1., 2. and 3. > > > > [I have inserted the questions here for reference] > > > > 1) Are you aware that an Austrian Journalist, Jane Burgermeister (who has > previously written for the UK Guardian Newspaper) has filed criminal charges > (in Austria and the USA) against Baxter Pharmaceuticals (and others) for > Bioterrorism for distributing live avian flu materials to 18 countries? > > > > 2) Are you aware that this same journalist has filed criminal charges > against a WHO official related to this incident? (These charges are included > in a document which is over 100 pages long.) > > > > 3) Are you aware that this same journalist has filed criminal charges > against the Austrian Health Minister? > > > > I can confirm that the Department of Health has received a copy of a > document entitled ‘Criminal charges regarding flu pandemic as a biological > weapon with Intent to produce genocide’, attributed to Jane Burgermeister. > This document states that Ms Burgermeister, as a Citizen of the United > States, would like to file criminal charges against, amongst others, Baxter > Pharmaceuticals and the World Health Organization (WHO). It does not list > the Austrian Health Minister, Maria Rauch-Kallat, in the charges, although > she is referred to. The version of the document that the Department has > received is unsigned and does not have a submission date. Therefore, it is > unclear whether these charges were actually filed > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn20> [20]. > > > > 4) Can you state clearly why Swine Flu is perceived as being so threatening > – when so far no symptoms other than those of “normal” flu seem to have been > reported? > > > > Swine flu poses a threat because is a new type of flu virus that few, if > any, people have full resistance to > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn21> [21]. In most cases the virus has proved > relatively mild, as you suggest. However, around the world, thousands of > people have died and it is not yet clear how big a risk the virus is > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn22> [22]. For this reason, and because all viruses > can mutate to become more potent, scientists are advising a cautious > approach > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn23> [23]. > > > > 5) Are you concerned at the extremely alarmist and mis-representative media > coverage which Swine flu is being subject to? (Do you have an intention or > policy to deal with this?) For example, repeated cases of death have been > reported, but in the next statement it has stated the person already had > “underlying health problems”. > > > > The Government has made available up-to-date information and guidance on > swine flu in a variety of ways. An information leaflet was delivered to the > majority of UK households in May > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn24> [24]. The Swine Flu Information Line (0800 1 513 > 513) holds useful recorded advice on the virus and its treatment. Regularly > updated information can also be found on various government websites, such > as www.direct.gov.uk and www.nhs.uk. I hope you will agree that the > Department has an effective communications strategy for handling swine flu, > and that it would be inappropriate for it to intervene in independent media > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn25> [25]. > > > > 6) Can you explain why many thousands or even millions of UK houses were > leafleted regarding Swine flu when it seems to be no worse than “normal” > flu? > > Please see the answer to question 4 > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn26> [26]. > > > > 7) Can you advise whether you have sourced doses of Swine Flu vaccine yet, > or if and when you plan to do so? > > > > I can confirm that the Government has ordered enough swine flu vaccine for > the whole UK population > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn27> [27]. > > > > 8) If you have sources vaccine doses, can you state which company or > companies will have manufactured the vaccines to be used? > > The Government has contracts with two companies to supply the swine flu > vaccine. They are Baxter Healthcare Ltd and GlaxoSmithKline > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn28> [28]. > > > > 9) If a vaccine becomes available will, you advise GP’s, nurses and those > taking the vaccine of a detailed list of ingredients in the vaccine doses? > > > > All ingredients will be listed in the licensed product information that will > be made available when the vaccines are licensed. > > > > 10) Will you list the possible side effects of taking the vaccine, > and their likelihood of manifestation? (Please consider carefully what > happened in the USA following the 1976 Swine Flu Scare). > > All possible side effects will be listed in the licensed product information > that will be made available when the vaccines are licensed > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn29> [29]. > > > > 11) What efforts will you be undertaking to inform the public of the > serious side effects reported by some of those who took tamiflu/releanza? > > > > The Medicines and Healthcare Products Agency (MHRA) is responsible for > monitoring drug side effects. Although there have been individual reports > of side effects from antiviral treatment, no pattern has emerged. > Therefore, the MHRA has not issued an alert or warning of specific serious > side effects from antiviral treatment. With every supply of antiviral drugs > there is a patient information leaflet which lists the side effects > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn30> [30]. > > > > 12) Are drug companies in the UK immune (no pun intended) from > prosecution by those people that experience any serious or debilitating side > effects after having the vaccine? (As happened in 1976.) > > > > The Government signed the advance purchase agreements for the vaccines in > June 2007 and accepted liability for their safety as a contingency. All > governments signing up to an advance purchase agreement were expected to > provide an indemnity for the vaccine, and neither manufacturer would sign > the contracts without it. The Government’s decision was based on the best > procurement and legal advice. Accepting liability in this way is in line > with Government accounting rules, and was cleared by the Public Accounts > Committee at the time > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn31> [31]. > > > > 13) What are the plans for administering the vaccine – > e.g. is a policy in place to issue letters through GP’s? > > > > Detailed plans for the implementation of the programme are currently being > developed. GPs surgeries will be given £5.25 per dose of vaccine given > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn32> [32]. It will pay for the extra staff and > non-staff resources that practices will need to vaccinate their at-risk > patients. At the same time it will ensure other services provided by the > practices do not suffer while practices are vaccinating large numbers of > patients > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn33> [33]. > > > > 14) What is the policy or plan for administering the vaccine in > schools? (Is there a plan and under what circumstances would this plan be > “activated”?) > > > > The vaccine will initially be prioritised for those groups of people who are > at highest risk of severe illness, as well as frontline health and social > care workers > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn34> [34]. The use of the vaccine in the wider > healthy population will depend on the evolution of the pandemic, as well as > new and emerging clinical data on the use of the vaccine. This will be kept > under review > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn35> [35]. > > > > ‘During a pandemic, it may be necessary to overrule existing legislation or > (individual) human rights. Examples are the enforcement of quarantine > (overruling individual freedom of movement), use of privately owned > buildings for hospitals, off-license use of drugs, compulsory vaccination or > implementation of emergency shifts in essential services. These decisions > need a legal framework to ensure transparent assessment and justification of > the measures that are being considered, and to ensure coherence with > international legislation (International Health Regulations). > > > > Hence: > > > > 15) Is Britain a signatory to this “checklist” or is EU, UK or other > legislation in place which would mean that this “checklist” can be applied > to UK citizens? > > The WHO document to which you refer is simply intended as guidance to assist > member states in their flu pandemic planning > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn36> [36]. > > > > 16) Are you concerned that there is inaccurate and alarmist > information in the leaflet distributed to millions of UK homes? For example: > > > > Because it’s a new virus, no one will have immunity to it and everyone could > be at risk of catching it. This includes healthy adults as well as older > people, young children and those with existing medical conditions. > > > > This is essentially false, because there are always some people that are > immune to new infections (perhaps because of their general level of fitness > and their choice of nutrition etc, which can affect the strength of their > immune response). > > > > While the current situation is serious… > > > > What makes a situation “serious”? Should we stop people from driving cars > and stop them drinking alcohol? These result in far more deaths every day. > > > > When the swine flu information leaflet was written it was correct to say > that there was no immunity to the virus in the community > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn37> [37]. This referred to specific immunity to this > particular virus. The Department now has the benefit of experience from the > first wave of this new flu infection. Therefore, it seems there may be some > specific partial cross immunity in the elderly population from previous flu > infections. Specific immunity is different from the general ability to > fight an infection through an intact immune response, as seen in a healthy > population, to which you refer. > > > > A flu pandemic is serious because, depending on the virulence of the virus, > there is the potential for a large number of deaths > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn38> [38]. Even if it is less virulent, very large > numbers of people can be affected, causing significant social disruption due > to absence from work > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn39> [39]. For example, healthcare could be affected. > Distribution of food using road transport from large supermarket depots > could be disrupted due to absence. The seriousness of a flu pandemic is not > just due to the potential for the virus to cause premature death > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn40> [40]. > > > > 17) Why didn’t the leaflet include information on nutrition and > taking vitamins – for example vitamin D – which can boost the body’s immune > response. > > > > The Department’s general advice is that people should follow a healthy diet. > Furthermore, people should ideally get all the vitamins and minerals they > need from the food that they eat. Nutrients tend to be absorbed more > effectively if they are in food, rather than consumed through a tablet > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftn41> [41]. > > > > I hope this reply is helpful. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Alex Philpott > > Customer Service Centre > > Department of Health > > > > _____ > > > Notes > > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref1> [1] This sounds impressive – but what research > is it based on (none is referenced)? No reference is made to the supposed > 1976 pandemic – which never appeared and “could the basis of historical > patterns of infection” suggested be wrong? > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref2> [2] This also proved to be of little or no > importance – except as a way for > ial-links-drug-company-Tamiflu.html> Gilead to make a lot of money from one > or more government contracts. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref3> [3] It’s a milder infection – but pandemic > plans and spending proceed seemingly regardless of this. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref4> [4] If it’s a mild infection – no different > then any other, then why undertake the leafleting and poster campaigns? > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref5> [5] > ial-links-drug-company-Tamiflu.html> Is it responsible for local media to > suggest 1 in 80 could die in the pandemic? Why is the authority not critical > of this scare-mongering story – and the corresponding national media > hysteria? > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref6> [6] So the Dept of Health is looking to the WHO > to help with making policy – we do not elect officials for the WHO – so > policy is being “copied” from WHO, it seems. This I think, is more revealing > than it may first appear. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref7> [7] This is true – so presumably is the worry > about criticism which is driving public policy rather than looking at the > evidence of what is really going on (i.e. nothing infectious). Perhaps it > needs to be pointed out to people that one can only be pro-active to a > certain extent – and then we have to accept it is a re-active policy – > otherwise millions of pounds can be wasted – such as on Tamiflu – which was > hardly used 3 years ago. (Though no evidence has been presented of a real > threat of a pandemic.) > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref8> [8] A vaccine sounds good! However, health > officials have stated the virus could easily “mutate”, so how can we be sure > the vaccine will be effective? See below for further questions on this. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref9> [9] So, looks like they’re not too concerned to > comment or clarify on what > cine> some reports have been saying about mercury, sqaulene etc being in > vaccines. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref10> [10] > No comment on > the 1976 swine flu scare – and people who were vaccine damaged. No mention > that the US lied about the statements of people like Mary Tyler-Moore (a > celebrity at the time) – perhaps it is unfair to “blame” them too much for > this – but then again, they have the same ability to research these issues > as we do. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref11> [11] Well, this is a problem really – because > of the reports of serious side effects for both the Anti-virals and the > vaccine. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref12> [12] Any medication? What about naturopathic > medication? What about simple remedies which have no side effects? Methinks > we are being conned into accepting side effects – and the idea they can be > worse than the illness (as has been reported with both > > Tamiflu and > l-linked-to-deaths.html> Gardasil, for example). > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref13> [13] I still don’t think they have established > a need for ANY vaccination, so what is the basis for proceeding with ANY > vaccination policy? > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref14> [14] This is false – and their answer to a > later question essentially contradicts this. > Research conducted at the > Gastrointestinal Unit, Massachusetts General Hospital, Harvard Medical > School indicates taking vitamins can improve immune response. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref15> [15] This is false – there is always some > “natural” immunity to infection – or at least, if people become infected, > they don’t show any symptoms. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref16> [16] So is this saying people may already be > immune anyway? This again partly contradicts the previous statement, covered > in the previous footnote. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref17> [17] This essentially contradicts itself – > there is no real evidence of a pandemic – in this county (Derbyshire), no > one is displaying any serious symptoms without additional health problems > and no one in (1 million people) has died from anything proved to be related > to any pandemic! What gives? > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref18> [18] Good hand hygiene is a good practice to > get into – that’s not the issue – the issue is vaccination plans and > mass-leafleting with faulty and incomplete information. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref19> [19] This contradicts what was said in answer > to question 16 (see footnote 14). > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref20> [20] So they are aware of this! But they do > not comment on whether they have done their own investigation into this – > and why they think something like this would not be worth investigating. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref21> [21] > ersion.pdf> But the NHS leaflet says “no one will be resistant” to it (See > bottom of page 4). So is it “few” or “none”? > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref22> [22] The evidence now suggests, after almost 6 > months, that there is no threat over and above an ordinary flu strain. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref23> [23] So why the national leafleting campaign > and media and council > talk of mass graves? (This is NOT normal for a flu scare.) > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref24> [24] This does not really answer the question > – see other notes about the leaflet too. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref25> [25] Intervention was not exactly requested in > my question – i.e. I didn’t say “when are you going to deal with this?” A > question was asked about the level of media hysteria and no comment was made > – only what the DH had done itself – which is not really answering the > question. To me, it is telling the DH did not choose to properly respond to > this question. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref26> [26] They don’t say “this is worse than normal > flu” – there is no evidence that what has happened is worse than normal flu > and no discussion of why millions of pounds were spent on a leafleting > campaign which contains false and/or incomplete information. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref27> [27] But the Swine Flu has not claimed any > lives! If the flu is meant to “mutate” in the winter, then how can any > vaccine be effective? Shouldn’t this read “The government has purchased some > vaccine and will purchase more when we understand better how any new strain > behaves.” > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref28> [28] Good to know that has been cleared up. No > worry that one company has been charged by someone for Bioterrorism… > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref29> [29] Once again, no comment on the 1976 swine > flu debacle. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref30> [30] See footnote 11. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref31> [31] Wow! 2007? Oh sorry, it’s all part of the > “pandemic response” plan – which has not taken into account the events of 30 > years earlier, it would seem (or the non-appearance or non-threat of bird > flu and SARS). Or maybe it has. Nice of the UK Government (and other > governments) to accept any potential liability for damage caused by the > products of some of the world’s richest companies! > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref32> [32] I have been told this is normal practice > for the yearly flu vaccine administering. But I can’t help feeling this is > like a bribe of some kind – particularly when they have already stated they > have bought enough vaccine for the whole UK population. Let’s see 60 million > x £5.25 = £315 million – just for administering the vaccine. Whew! A big > financial commitment for something which has no evidence to back it up! What > did the pharmaceutical companies charge for each dose? (I forgot to ask > this…!). I wonder if I can ask the DH to send my dose back to the > manufacturers and request a refund? > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref33> [33] So, this will mean more spending – > perhaps another £300 million? Already we’re up to half a billion pounds – > for something which hasn’t happened. Perhaps that’s why there is no money > for smaller schemes which would benefit us all – and > why money has to be taken away from > homeopathic hospitals. “Hmm it’s better to promote toxic treatments – like > unproven Swine flu vaccines – non-toxic therapies or prophylactic vitamin > supplements!”. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref34> [34] Fortunately no talk of mandatory > vaccination – others take note… > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref35> [35] So will the pandemic even emerge? > > Perhaps only will it emerge as it did in the supposed pandemic of Spanish > Flu in 1918? > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref36> [36] So Britain is a member state. No comments > on any UK legislation – or what the “International Health Regulations” > referred to in the WHO document are (or who makes those regulations). Will > the UK take the WHO’s advice in the form given in this document? This is not > addressed. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref37> [37] The leaflet was incorrect – as there is > always a level of natural immunity to new infections. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref38> [38] This refers to the definition of a > pandemic in general – but no one anywhere has provided any credible evidence > that the swine flu is a dangerous pandemic. This is the key point in all of > this. No research is quoted, no figures given – nothing! > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref39> [39] Hmmm…. Yeah – it’s what happens when “a > bug goes round”, as everyone knows. Still no evidence as to why this bug is > any different – just many authoritative sounding statements to the effect > that “it might be”. > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref40> [40] There is the potential for an asteroid > impact to be serious and disruptive – it is also a clear and present danger > – so should not we all be building deep underground bases for everyone? (etc > etc). > > > w&id=252&Itemid=75#_ftnref41> [41] So, they don’t disagree about a good diet > etc being essential to promote a strong immune response! Hooray! > > _____ > > > > > Original Letter to Derbs PCT > > > 22 Mear Drive > > Borrowash > > Derbyshire > > DE72 3QW > > Tel: 01332 674271 > > > Re: “Swine Flu”, “Tamiflu” and Vaccination Issues > > > > > Dear Mr Thornton, > > > > As an initial note, I tried to find contact details on the PCT website, but > the “click here” link on this page is broken: > > > > > > >http://www.derbyshirecountypct.nhs.uk/questions-comments-and-complaints.asp > > > > > > _____ > > > > Questions, Comments and Complaints > > > Please > > click here for contact details for any comments, compliments or complaints > you may wish to make. > > _____ > > > > Further to my previous communication, some of which I repeat below, I have > some specific questions. > > > > We are now being bombarded from all directions with various reports relating > to what has become known as “Swine Flu” – with leaflets and signs being > posted almost everywhere. I am concerned at the very high and arguably > disproportionate level of exposure the issue has been receiving. I am not > alone in this concern – quite a few people I know agree that “something is > seriously wrong” with what we are seeing. > > > > I am writing to get your best answers on a number of key questions and also > to try to make you aware of certain information which is very important in > forming a realistic view of the whole affair. > > > > It seems to be clear now that there is concerted effort among a number of > groups to increase the fear regarding “Swine Flu”. This strategy (and it > does seem to be deliberate) has been effective. I have even been (told by > someone I know well who works in a large city hospital) that people have > been going into to Accident and Emergency and requesting doses of “Tamiflu”! > > > > I realise I am perhaps including quite a lot of information and some > detailed questions, therefore I am anticipating some delay in your response. > I will start with a few important points of information and follow up with a > list of questions. > > > > > Points of Information to be aware of > > > · On his website ( www.mercola.com), Dr > Mercola points out that the last time the public has been warned about swine > flu was in 1976 – it resulted in a massive swine flu vaccine campaign. > Within a few months, claims totalling $1.3 billion had been filed by victims > who had suffered paralysis from the vaccine. The vaccine was also blamed for > 25 deaths. I have a short CBS documentary about this. > > > > · Almost 1 month before the outbreak, on 19 Mar 2009, `Medical > News Today’ reported that a French Pharmaceutical Company, Sanofi Aventis > `Invests 100 Million Euros In New Facility In Mexico To Produce Seasonal and > Pandemic Influenza Vaccine’ > > > > · On 6 Apr 2009 – 11 days before the first Mexico case appeared – > Derby Telegraph held an article entitled `Flu pandemic could kill up to one > in 80′. This article discusses the stock piling of surgical masks and gowns. > It almost seems like someone knew this was coming! > > > > · Dr. Len Horowitz urges an investigation of Dr. James S. > Robertson, England’s leading bioengineer of flu viruses for the vaccine > industry, and avid promoter of U.S. Government funding for lucrative > bio-defence contracts, along with collaborators at the US Centres for > Disease Control & Prevention (CDC). > > > > · In 2005, CNN ran a story “Rumsfeld’s growing stake in Tamiflu” – > Rumsfeld is former US defence secretary. Researchers have also noted that > the “shelf life” of Tamiflu – one of the so-called treatments for those who > have supposedly succumbed to the Avian virus – is 3 years… > > > > · Numerous reports from Japan and other countries are showing that > Tamiflu (and a related drug Relenza) can cause devastating, tragic side > effects, such as hallucinations, delusional behaviour, loss of contact with > reality, convulsions, nausea and vomiting, psychosis, suicidal behaviour, > death of both adults and children. > > > > · The Daily Telegraph reported (on 02 July 2008) that three Polish > doctors and six nurses were facing criminal prosecution after a number of > homeless people died following medical trials for a vaccine to the H5N1 > bird-flu virus. > > > > So I have some questions, which I would appreciate some answers to. > > > > > > > > Without answers to these questions, and acknowledgement of the information > provided above, perhaps you will realise that I have to question the whole > nature of this Swine Flu affair. The research I have done draws me to > conclusions which are in many cases diametrically opposite to those which > are assumed by the media and the visible majority of health practitioners, > consultants and commentators. > > > > I strongly question the role of the pharmaceutical companies, media and the > government in either creating a set of problems where none previously > existed or not providing full and accurate information in delivering or > managing a solution to any real problems which may have become apparent. (A > pattern of information censorship seems to be happening – as has happened in > relation to the events of 9/11/01 and 7/7/05 and I can prove this.) > > > > I am hoping for a full and frank response to my questions and information > supplied, as they relate directly to the health and well-being of my family > and myself. I therefore look forward to your carefully considered comments > and well-researched feedback, which would neither be seen as a > “stone-walling” or “a brush off”. Also, please do not mention “ill-founded > conspiracy theories” as this idea is not relevant to the specific questions > I am asking. (Indeed, some of the answers are simply “Yes/No”.) > > > > Yours Sincerely, > > > > > > Andrew Johnson > > > > > > > Original Letter to Dept of Health > > > > > 22 Mear Drive > > Borrowash > > Derbyshire > > DE72 3QW > > 01332 674271 > > > > Dear Sir/Madam, > > > > I recently wrote to my local Health Authority (Derbyshire PCT) with a list > of questions. They were able to answer the majority of them, but they > referred me to the DoH for some answers. I include the list of questions, > and some other information which I hope will be passed on to the relevant > people for study. > > > > We are now being bombarded from all directions with various reports relating > to what has become known as “Swine Flu” – with leaflets and signs being > posted almost everywhere. I am concerned at the very high and arguably > disproportionate level of exposure the issue has been receiving. I am not > alone in this concern – quite a few people I know agree that “something is > seriously wrong” with what we are seeing and experiencing. > > > > I am writing to get your best answers on a number of key questions and also > to try to make you aware of certain information which is very important in > forming a realistic view of the whole affair. > > > > It seems to be clear now that there is concerted effort among a number of > groups to increase the fear regarding “Swine Flu”. This strategy (and it > does seem to be deliberate) has been effective. I have even been (told by > someone I know well who works in a large city hospital in the East Midlands) > that people have been going into to Accident and Emergency and requesting > doses of “Tamiflu”! Perhaps this is the result of the normal Patient/GP > interface being bypassed by the incredible situation of Tamiflu pills being > supplied over the phone! A number of people I know have raised eyebrows over > this issue. > > I realise I am perhaps including quite a lot of information and some > detailed questions, therefore I am anticipating some delay in your response. > I will start with a few important points of information and follow up with a > list of questions. > > > > > Points of Information to be aware of > > > > > > > > > So I have some questions, which I would appreciate some answers to. > > > > > > > > Without answers to these questions, and acknowledgement of the information > provided above, perhaps you will realise that I have to question the whole > nature of this Swine Flu affair. The research I have done draws me to > conclusions which are in many cases diametrically opposite to those which > are assumed by the media and the visible majority of health practitioners, > consultants and commentators. > > > > I strongly question the role of the pharmaceutical companies, media and the > government in either creating a set of problems where none previously > existed or not providing full and accurate information in delivering or > managing a solution to any real problems which may have become apparent. (A > pattern of information censorship seems to be happening – as has happened in > relation to the events of 9/11/01 and 7/7/05 and I can prove this.) > > > > I am hoping for a full and frank response to my questions and information > supplied, as they relate directly to the health and well-being of my family > and myself. I therefore look forward to your carefully considered comments > and well-researched feedback, which would neither be seen as a > “stone-walling” or “a brush off”. Please could this be treated in the spirit > of a “Freedom of Information” request i.e. can a response be given within 20 > working days. > > > > Yours Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Andrew Johnson > > > > > My Response to Derbs PCT > > > > > Dear Ms Chick, > > > > Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my long list of questions. > I will forward the appropriate questions to the Department of Health. > > > > I have a few follow up points to make, but a response is not required. > > > > With regard to media coverage, this sort of story in the Sun is one which > gives me concern (and a similar story was carried on Essex County Council’s > own website). > > > > —————————————————————————- > —- > > > >http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/swineflu/2595214/Plans-drawn-up-fo > r-mass-swine-flu-graves.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Swine%20Flu > > PLANS for mass graves have been drawn up to cope with a second wave of swine > flu this Autumn. > > > > —————————————————————————- > —- > > > > It seems that everyone is just believing what WHO says and “toeing the > line”. I am in touch with quite a number of people now who are very > concerned we are not been giving truthful and full information about the > reason why a pandemic is “expected”. Coupled with Baxter’s “accidental” > release of live vaccine to 4 countries, quite a few people I know are of the > view that the “Pandemic”, if it occurs, will have been created deliberately, > and will not be a natural occurrence at all. > > > > I also find it curious that it is being treated as a pandemic, yet the > number of deaths or those with serious illness does not even come anywhere > near the definition of a pandemic – you said yourself no one in our region > has died from Swine Flu. > > > > In the point about natural immunity, the answers you sent were somewhat > contradictory – and I am very concerned that a nationwide leafleting > campaign has encouraged people to take Tamiflu – the effects of which have > now been covered in the press (and probably exaggerated somewhat, but > nevertheless I would not take such a drug myself). > > > > Additionally, many people can clearly see how the normal Patient/GP > interface has been bypassed by the incredible situation of Tamiflu pills > being supplied over the phone. A number of people I know have raised > eyebrows over this issue. > > > > Please note for the record, that if a Pandemic occurs in the autumn, I > contend the history will ultimately record that it wasn’t a natural > occurrence – history will record that it was a problem created out of the > greed and folly of the pharmaceutical companies, conspiring with a small > number of other officials to unfold their agenda in a way that was so > shocking, most people would not believe it. > > > > In a similar sense, I can prove to you we have been lied to about 9/11 and > 7/7 – no theories – just evidence. This is one of the reasons why I have > stated what I have stated above. Politicians, Military people and Security > interests were given “carte blanche” to impose measures – such as liquid > restrictions on air flights – which are still in place – even though the > people who were accused of that plot have been released without charge! > > > > I very much regret that, in a similar way, people are not looking at all the > evidence and therefore, overall, are drawing incorrect conclusions – or > believing what they are told, because they have no access to certain > information. > > > > Thanks for reading. > > > > Yours > > > > Andrew Johnson > > > > > My Response to the Department of Health > > > > > Dear Sir/Madam, > > > > Thanks for this list of responses, which is very informative and I will be > writing about it. > > > > I know you’re trying to “do your best”, but let it be known that I reject > the basis of the supposed pandemic as the DoH has provided no verifiable > evidence that a pandemic is imminent.The DH has clearly not taken into > account enough diverse evidence in constructing its policy on dealing with > this issue – which is likely engineered anyway and is essentially stated it > is going to happen “because it hasn’t happened yet”. It is also interesting > that the DH has not chosen to make comments on the obvious media hysteria > (and no, I wasn’t expecting it to “intervene” – but it could have commented) > > > > Let it be known that I reject the suggested treatment and regard it as > irresponsible and inappropriate for those in authority to purchase a vaccine > doses on my behalf that I will not be taking. > > > > I suspect you will be finding a lot of people saying similar things to the > above – especially when they have reviewed the disclosed timing basis on > which DH officials have “made plans”. It might even be a disaster for the > DH, who knows. > > > > As a comparison, I am now going to tell everyone in their neighbourhood that > their houses may burn down so they should stock up on fire extinguishers. (I > have no evidence to tell me this will happen, just that it might – so they’d > better prepare themselves!) Do you think they will listen? > > > > Yours Sincerely, > > > > Andrew Johnson > > > _____ > > > Are you interested in what’s really going on in the world, behind the > facade? Then… >http://www.checktheevidence.com/ > > What happened on 9/11? >http://www.drjudywood.com/ >