Re: FW: Feedback/Additional info – Clip from My Dinner with Andre

From: benthejrporter

Date: 2013-10-16 18:31:40

Findhorn is not the “love and light” place it’s said to be. Based on my own trip there:  http://hpanwo.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/findhorn.html —In Cognoscence@yahoogro…, wrote: I think Kathy has some valuable additional insights here – I was aware, for example, that Findhorn is connected to the Lucis Trust…. From: Kathy Roberts [mailto:khr@…] Sent: 15 October 2013 12:24To: ad.johnson@…Subject: Re: Clip from My Dinner with Andre Andrew,Thanks for this reminder of this movie because I can see how it fits into our social programming. I recall seeing this when it came out and liking it a lot. I’ve always liked Louis Malle movies, but I have a broader perspective on them these days. The New Age propaganda in “My Dinner with Andre” is now clear to me (having immersed myself in New Age thinking for years), so it’s no coincidence that this clip seems to anticipate what’s happening now. Andre Gregory extolls Findhorn as a model for his vision of “pockets of light” in a new Dark Age. Remember George H. W Bush’s “thousand points of light”? Here’s a reference to Obama echoing Bush’s theme:
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Obama played off Bush’s call for a “thousand points of light” at the 1989 inaugural, building on the metaphor just as Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and his own administration built on Bush’s legacy of support for volunteerism.

“He didn’t call for one blinding light shining from Washington. He didn’t just call for a few bright lights from the biggest nonprofits,” Obama said. “He called for a vast galaxy of people and institutions working together to solve problems in their own backyards. Twenty years later, think for a minute about the impact that he’s had.”The reference to a “thousand points of light” may reference the Mothers of Darkness Castle mentioned by Fritz Springmeier:
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This castle according to Springmeier, is a center of the occult and has a cathedral with a dome containing 1000 lights. The castle is referred to as the Mothers-of-Darkness castle and Monarch programming is supposedly performed on children there Andre’s vision of enlightened pockets of society surviving a kind of psycho-social Armageddon is familiar programming for the New Age. It mirrors the Illuminati belief in survivors of the fall of Atlantis guarding its occult secrets to teach them to the elect for a reemergence of the Golden Age. I’ve read this scenario in countless so-called channelings. The elite are simultaneously providing us with the new Dark Ages of which Andre speaks at the start of the clip and luring us into the false light of which he speaks at the end of the clip. This is what Findhorn is really about (emphasis in the original):

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David Spangler, co-director and spokesperson for the Findhorn Foundation explains the organization’s Luciferian views: The true light of Lucifer cannot be seen through sorrow, through darkness, through rejection. The true light of this great being can only be recognized when one’s own eyes can see with the light of the Christ, the light of the inner sun. Lucifer works within each of us to bring us to wholeness, and as we move into a New Age, which is the age of man’s wholenessetc.
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To this end, the Lucis Trust, under the leadership of Foster and Alice Bailey, started a group called ‘World Goodwill’ – an official non-governmental organization within the United Nations. The stated aim of this group is “to cooperate in the world of preparation for the reappearance of the Christ” [One Earth, the magazine of the Findhorn Foundation, October/November 1986, Vol. 6, Issue 6, p.24.]
This is the leading, putatively respectable Britain-based Satan cult (it worships Lucifer). The Lucis Trust, which runs the only religious chapel at the New York United Nations headquarters, The Temple of Understanding, was originaly founded as the Lucifer Trust, in London, in 1923. The Lucis Trust associated with the UNO is the New York affiliate of the British organization. The name was changed from Lucifer Trust, to Lucis Trust, to make the nature of the organization less conspicuous. The Lucis Trust’s leading sponsors include the following prominent figures:
The Findhorn Foundation Here is the Lucis Trust, in its own words, on the subject of Lucifer: www.lucistrust.org/e… Note that Lucis Trust mentions Alice Bailey. Here’s a take on her that’s not so flattering: “Lucis Trust, Alice Bailey, World Goodwill and the False Light of the World” www.conspiracyarchiv… upholds the sixties as the last glimmer of an enlightened society. I was a child of the sixties and long cherished the same view, but now I understand that I was just responding to more programming for the New Age. I highly recommend Dave McGowan’s startling revelations about the sixties in his series  “Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation”: www.davesweb.cnchost… old movies sure ain’t what it used to be. It seems we got plenty of programming with our popcorn. Kathy On 10/14/2013 9:55 AM, Andrew Johnson wrote: This is very interesting…. moreso because it’s 30 years old…   5 minute clip:   www.youtube.com/watc…   My Dinner with Andre (1981) More at IMDbPro Wallace Shawn and Andre Gregory, apparently playing themselves, share their lives over the course of an evening meal at a restaurant. Gregory, a theater director from New York, is the more talkative of the pair. He relates to Shawn his tales of dropping out, traveling around the world, and experiencing the variety of ways people live, such as a monk who could balance his entire weight on his fingertips. Shawn listens avidly, but questions the value of Gregory’s seeming abandonment of the pragmatic aspects of life. Written by Rick Gregory

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