Secrets of Some Gravity – Part 2

This is the second in a series of 3 articles written for the German edition of “Nexus” magazine in 2025. The material is largely drawn from my book Finding the Secret Space Programme and includes some revisions and updates in several places. It is important to understand the links between this research, UFO/UAP related black programmes (SAPs, USAPs etc) and… what happened on 9/11.

 

Andrew Johnson – ad.johnson@ntlworld….

 

In the previous article, we examined evidence that the work of Thomas Townsend Brown on electrogravitics was taken seriously by the US Air Force and probably other groups or organisations.  We also looked at some more recent “table top” experiments with “lifters” which strongly support the conclusion that an electric field can affect the force of gravity experienced by an object, regardless of any effect which simply creates thrust by moving air molecules downward because they get repelled by electrical charges they gather. (That is, the “ion wind” argument does not explain all the effect seen.)

Before we move on to other areas related to antigravity research, effects and technology, let us just pause to note that in the 1950s, around the time that Project Winterhaven got underway, a number of US publications featured articles discussing antigravity projects or research. From the November 1956 issue of “Young Men – The Magazine For Tomorrow’s Technicians And Engineers”^[i] an article titled “The G-Engines Are Coming!” by Michael Gladych states that “the gravity research has been supported by Glenn L. Martin Aircraft Co., Convair, Bell Aircraft, Lear, Inc., Sperry Gyroscope and several other American aircraft manufacturers who would not spend millions of dollars on science fiction.” It continues noting that “Lawrence D. Bell, the famous builder of the rocket research planes,” had said “We’re already working with nuclear fuels and equipment to cancel out gravity.” The article also mentions that Bill Lear was “already figuring out gravity control.”

Perhaps even more significant is an article in the June 1957 issue of “Mechanix Illustrated,”^[ii] by G. Harry Stine titled “Antigravity: Power of the Future.” This article also hints about the use of electrogravitics… “Flame-jet generators, making use of the electrostatic charge discovered in rocket exhausts, have been developed which will supply charges up to 15 million volts. Several important things have been discovered with regard to gravity propulsion. For one, the propulsive force doesn’t act on only one part of the ship it is pushing; it acts on all parts within the gravity field created by the gravitic drive.” It then notes the effect of g forces.

Then, From Practical Mechanics, Vol. XXIX October 1961 No. 330^[iii] an article called “ANTI GRAVITY The Science of Electro Gravitics” states “An antigravity machine is not impossible and many countries including Russia are at present investigating this new approach to aviation. Canada has its “Project Magnet” which is the production of an antigravity machine using the electro-gravitic principle.”

I would argue that the “Project Magnet” quote is not quite accurate. In the previous article, I noted Government Engineer Wilbert Smith’s statements in a 1950 “Top Secret Memo” about the secrecy classification of the UFO issue. In that same memo, he did suggest that a research project be set up (and it was), but it wasn’t overtly to investigate antigravitic effects. It was to investigate the UFO/flying saucer phenomenon generally, though it’s true that Smith did build and test experiments which he said proved that the weight of an object can be reduced using a disk spinning at very high speed. This research has been documented on William Treurniet’s Website.

Douglas Aircraft Corporation and Project BITBR

Not long after these writings – i.e. the late 1950s and early 1960s, talk of the development of antigravity drives or electrogravitic propulsion went into a sharp decline. Little was heard about it in the “white world.” However, in my “Finding the Secret Space Programme” book, I do discuss another episode which was brought to our attention in March 2005. Following my correspondence with Canadian researcher and author Grant Cameron, he mentioned that someone had contacted him regarding some documents they had acquired which formerly belonged to Douglas Aircraft Ltd. This company later became McDonnell Douglas, which was bought by Boeing in 1996^[iv]. As Grant’s website was a serious effort to uncover some of the truth regarding the US (and other) government’s knowledge of the UFO/ET phenomenon, he was a good person to contact to assess the quality of any official-looking documents relating to UFO research. Such was the case here. So, Grant passed my contact details onto a chap called Louis and I gave him an FTP login for my computer. According to what Louis told us, the documents were left in a barn which may have belonged to a Douglas Aircraft employee who died or moved. The new owner of the place found the files and sold them on Ebay for $31.00!

It seems that the project that generated the documents came about as a result of a similar set of circumstances to Smith’s Project Magnet, but the “project” was done inside a private company, rather than within a government department. That is, there was clearly someone who was well-qualified and could also see there was something in the UFO/ET phenomenon which was real, and worthy of serious scientific investigation. They managed to persuade their superiors in the company that this was the case and they were then given some freedom to investigate. Hence, the BITBR project or “Boys in The Back Room” project came into being…

The documents illustrate some of the research conducted by a small team of people working at the Douglas Aircraft corporation in the period 1967 – 1969. The “prime movers” in this secret research appeared to be J M Brown, Bob Wood, W.P. Wilson and D.B. Harmon. The most familiar of these names, perhaps, is Robert M Wood, Ph. D, who has authored and co-authored books and papers on the UFO/ET subject^[v].

As it says in one of these documents, the goal of the study was, ultimately, to develop a new method of propulsion based on a new theory of physics. This research was, of course, secret.

As may be expected from specialist researchers in the Douglas company, there is quite a bit of technical content in the documents, which would not be particularly interesting for the average reader. Similarly, there are a number of equations and a considerable amount of theoretical discussion.

“A New Communications Mode”

A 20-page document with this title^[vi] discusses ideas about how communications might work when vehicles have to travel at high speed. There is discussion of “instantaneous communication” by something like gravity waves and later in the document, it seems like someone makes a “pun” with a heading shown below:

A Possible Example: ESP (Equilibrium System Perception)

If a communication mode already exists in nature utilizing a gravity system, we possibly could find it in that portion of mammalian physiology which is dependent upon gravity for its continuous and successful operation.

The text then discusses how animals detect gravity – as a way of keeping their balance or to use for navigation. However, on page 11, we read of tests that were done a couple of years or more earlier, up to 1965:

It was decided that inasmuch as a reception was made, a transmission had been made, and that a controlled test should be performed. First, however, requirements should be established for being a good receiver, and for a good transmitter.

From the small experience up to April 1965, we had learned that the best description of a good receiver is a person who has found his inner peace. One who has learned that concern and worry are not the same; who has found minute-to-minute, hour-by-hour, day-by-day, month-by-month, year by-year ways of meeting everything, ranging from happiness and joy to boring normalcy to extraordinary adversity with calm acceptance, gaining victory when necessary; accepting failure when unavoidable, and turning it to success whenever possible. It takes a relaxed mind and body to be a good receiver.

It appears they are talking about some kind of telepathic communication. This is very similar, again, to what Wilbert Smith talked about – and seemingly was doing – with his “Topside” contacts…

From studying the “Project BITBR” documents, as far as I could tell, there is no mention of Thomas Townsend Brown’s research in any of the documents, nor of the term “electrogravitics,” although I could easily have missed some of these terms, as some of the pages are handwritten.

Boyd Bushman and Antigravity

While we’re on the subject of aircraft companies who were apparently involved in antigravity research, we should discuss Boyd Bushman – who was a senior research scientist for Lockheed Martin. He had worked for a number of years in U.S. aerospace and defence industries, at companies such as Texas Instruments, General Dynamics and Hughes Aircraft. He passed on, at age 78, in August 2014.

I first heard of Bushman while watching Nick Cook’s “Billion Dollar Secret” (BDS) documentary around the time it first aired in 1999.

Bushman was something of an enigmatic figure, but from everything that I have heard and read, I do think he was being as truthful as he could be. I think he was well aware of the reality of antigravity technology. In the 1999 BDS documentary, he hinted that he had been working on some type of electro-gravitic. He said:

I am refining and heading towards something that all you have to do is charge and it is lifting up – it is losing weight…. When we complete the technology, it should fly.

It does seem rather ridiculous that Bushman, working for a military industrial contractor, had only just “cottoned-on” to the work of people like Thomas Townsend Brown. In a David Sereda interview (from 2005 or 2006), further discussed below, Bushman states:

I do notice in recent publications that one of the latest group of my colleagues have said that they have evidence, because of the separation of the galaxies, that there is an antigravity [force].

I would contend that Bushman knew a lot more about antigravity research (older and newer) than he let on. This contention is, I think, supported by some of what he stated in his “last interview.”

It was Bushman who suggested Nick Cook should go and see John Hutchison in Canada, due to the levitation effects that Hutchison had created (Cook stated in the BDS documentary that Bushman had shown him a video of Hutchison’s experiments. John Hutchison’s work is much more important than most people realise!)

In the same BDS interview, Bushman talked about doing a simple experiment where two “balls” of the same size are made, one which contains just solid material and the other which, is the same weight, but contains two magnets which are forced or glued together with opposing poles touching.

Bushman was interviewed in 2005 by David Sereda. According to what he showed in the video of this interview^[vii], this “magnetic poles” experiment was done on 12 Dec 1995. (In the video of the interview, this information was shown on a certificate that Sereda held up and read out.)

I went back to some of the first work on gravity done by Galileo, when he climbed his leaning tower in Pisa and dropped two stones. They arrived at the ground at the same time. I climbed my leaning tower of building 500, here at the company and I dropped my two weights – that were exactly the same weight – and they did not arrive at the ground at the same time. I had purposely placed opposing magnets that “didn’t like each other” – like two Norths – together and I had already done an iron filing test that showed that it was showering out an entire magnetic plane. I wanted to see how that magnetic plane interfaces with gravity.

In the Sereda interview, Bushman states the magnetic field from the “ball” which had the magnets in it, extended out “three feet on each side” of the object. In the “gravity test,” the “balls” were dropped from a height of 59 feet inside a building. The experiment that Bushman describes has been reproduced by several people, as it is so simple. One such reproduction was done by William Alek, for example^[viii] – and a web search will likely reveal several more reproductions that have been done. Bushman gives more details about the “opposing magnets/gravity” experiment, mentioned above. He states that “gravity goes through anything that is solid and anything like iron… but it has to have a magnetic component, which may be ‘cancelling out within itself’ when in materials other than metals. He then points out that, in the opposing magnets/falling object experiment, the behaviour of gravity is changing, due to the presence of the constant magnetic field from the magnets.

Bushman talks about Einstein and suggests what motivated the statement “you cannot communicate at beyond the velocity of light using photons.” He facetiously suggests that if Einstein had been blind, he might have said “you cannot communicate at beyond the velocity of sound.” That is, Bushman was saying you have to consider the way your own senses work. To follow this up, Bushman alludes to the idea that perhaps we should be considering that “you can’t travel faster than the velocity of thought.” I will just note here, again, what Wilbert Smith said in his Top Secret Memo from 1950):

“I was further informed that the United States authorities are investigating along quite a number of lines which might possibly be related to the saucers such as mental phenomena …”

Boyd Bushman on Bob Lazar

Much has been written about the disclosures of Bob Lazar, which were revealed in 1989. This was another account which some deemed to be an extremely significant disclosure and others judged that it was “too good to be true.” There are several copies of an interview which appeared in a Sci-Fi channel documentary in the 1990s, so I recommend readers listen to that to hear Lazar’s own words.^[ix] Lazar’s story can be summarized as follows.

He met Edward Teller (who had seen Bob Lazar’s work on a dragster engine) at a lecture Teller gave in 1982. Lazar was soon hired by Los Alamos National Labs (LANL – his name appeared in the phone book). In early 1989, Lazar drove to and parked at a Special projects EG&G building at Las Vegas McCarran Airport and flew from there into Area 51 where he worked, sporadically, for about 6 months. Lazar claims he went through security checks into hangars, set against a mountain, with sand-coloured sloped doors (he did not notice any underground levels). Lazar said he was hired to replace someone who was killed when working on a reactor at the Nevada test site. At one point, he went into a briefing room and was told to read about what was going on in other projects. He saw some autopsy photos of aliens. He was told about a captured craft which originated from the Zeta Reticuli star system (as was the craft that Betty and Barney Hill encountered, according to Stan Friedman and Marjorie Fish).^[x]

Lazar claimed he directly worked on a craft in a hangar there, which he went inside – and realised it was extra-terrestrial and he was there to “back-engineer” it (i.e. determine how it worked and how it had been built so that it could be duplicated). He had “majestic clearance” 38 levels above Q clearance and he worked with about 20 other people on “Project Galileo.”

Lazar explained that the ET Craft produced a gravity wave – similar to what the earth produces – and that it had a “reactor” and 3 gravity amplifiers which generated its own gravity field(s). Amplifiers could be configurated in “delta” and “omicron” to lift, then propel the craft in a given direction (by creating a distortion which the craft “falls into”.) The reactor Lazar worked on was powered by element 115 – a stable element. He was told they had been given 500lbs of element 115 (a few atoms have since been synthesised in the white world). Lazar said that the element 115 was produced radiation and antimatter in the reactor. This then reacted with a gas to create heat and, in the reactor, this is then converted to electrical power using a thermoelectric converter which is “100% efficient” and there is no thermal radiation. Lazar said that the reactor sets up a gravitational wave – from the element 115 being bombarded. This wave is guided (similar to the way microwaves are guided) through “tuned tubes” into amplifying cavities and through the projectors at the bottom of the (presumed to be metal) craft. Lazar said he witnessed one “low performance,” piloted test flight, inside the hangar, at sundown when it lifted off ground, silently, with no exhaust – and a corona discharge at the bottom and it moved slightly from side to side.

Lazar was told about “test flight schedules” on a Weds. Night – when, statistically, there was less air traffic in the area. He took John Lear and Gene Huff to witness a test flight on 22 Mar 1989 and they saw a craft.^[xi]

Many would agree that Lazar comes across very well. His statements are concise and articulate and he does have genuine knowledge of physics and engineering. For years, he has run a company called United Nuclear^[xii] and sold equipment and materials which scientists and educators use. He has also designed a safe hydrogen storage system which can be used to run an ordinary car.^[xiii] He states, frequently, that he would rather people disbelieved his Area 51 story. He has to be persuaded to tell this story and be interviewed about it. He has written an autobiography – “Dreamland,” but that was only published in 2019. He has not been on the “UFO speaking circuit.”

Several people, such as Stanton Friedman^[xiv], have looked into Lazar’s background and cannot verify, for example, where he was educated. Lazar gave a presentation in 1993 at the Little Ale Inn in Nevada and when questioned, could not remember the name of any of his college tutors/lecturers.^[xv]

Boyd Bushman’s Comments

In an October 2004 interview on the American Antigravity website with Tim Ventura^[xvi], Bushman discussed what he thought of Lazar’s story. He said he (or rather “we”) did “collectively investigate everything that Bob Lazar [said]”  but Bushman knew that because of the high levels of security on projects such as those Bushman – and Lazar – had worked on, there would be a “cover story” for the project.  Bushman said that what Lazar described “fits beautifully as a cover story.” Bushman stated that the description of element 115 being a potentially stable element was allowed to be part of the cover story. Bushman also noted that what Lazar said about element 115 had been known for quite some time. We can now note that element 115 has been synthesised in the “white world” – as encyclopaedia Britanica notes – it was produced in 2010 and named “Moscovium”. We will consider the significance of Bushman’s analysis at the end of this section.

Paul La Violette on Lazar

PLV has a useful section on the Lazar case in his 2008 book “Secrets of Antigravity.” On page 284-5, PLV writes:

…at one UFO seminar in 1993, Lazar disclosed his belief that gravity is electromagnetic in nature but that it is an electromagnetic wave of a particular microwave frequency, which he did not wish to disclose at the time. Yet, in my opinion, it is a major error to assume that gravity is electromagnetic in nature or to suggest that the electric or magnetic field itself produces gravitational effects. It would instead be more reasonable to postulate that electric and gravity potential fields are coupled and that electromagnetic waves and electric shock discharges are accompanied by a distinct gravity wave component. To refer to the craft’s microwave emissions as gravity waves per se and to claim that such gravitational effects manifest only at a specific frequency, in my view is rather outlandish.

PLV also suggests that the technology that Lazar allegedly worked on does not work exactly as Lazar describes. The technology could actually be part of another black programme that PLV was told about – Project Skyvault. (This was alleged to be a project to launch a craft using a high-powered microwave beam. It is covered in chapter 7 of PLV’s book.)

 

The Cover Story?

Michael Schratt^[xvii], an aerospace expert and SolidWorks draftsman based in Tucson (Arizona) has recorded several interviews with Kerry Cassidy which can be found via the Project Camelot website.^[xviii]. He has compiled a detailed report on the Lazar case^[xix], which seems to show several important inconsistencies in Lazar’s story. Most interestingly, however, on page 37 of the “Lazar report”, Schratt highlights a small detail in one of Lazar’s sketches, which were shown to some people. This sketch may indicate that Lazar had seen something classified when he was working in Area 51. Schratt proposes this might have been something codenamed “Blackstar” – a two stage to orbit spaceplane also nicknamed “Speedy,” “Black Magic” and “Xov.” A story about this vehicle was featured in the March 6, 2006 issue of Aviation Week^[xx].

What was Lazar Doing in Area 51?

We can, for a moment, consider Bushman’s analysis in relation to the fact that Lazar had built a particle accelerator at his home^[xxi] and he had used this to actually develop a new material (a hydride) for his hydrogen storage system. This means that Lazar must have a very good understanding of nuclear physics and he is also good at engineering. Also, let us note that he was allegedly employed by Los Alamos National Laboratories – which was where they had designed the atomic bomb in the 1940s. Similarly, he said he was employed after a meeting with Edward Teller – regarded as “the father of the Hydrogen Bomb”^[xxii]. Hence, Teller was also a nuclear physicist.

In 2019, Lazar was interviewed by Joe Rogan – accompanied by Jeremy Corbell. This was seemingly to promote Corbell’s film (then hosted on Netflix) “Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers.” In the interview, Lazar confirmed that he worked at LANL, but said this was before he met Edward Teller. Not much new information was revealed in the Rogan/Lazar interview and it seemed like Rogan and Corbell did most of the talking. Lazar faltered badly when talking about element 115 and even reported experiencing a migraine during the interview! At one point, Rogan implied that Lazar had worked on “top secret weapons stuff” but Lazar neither confirmed nor denied this. Lazar did mention “Project Sidekick” – which was supposed to be looking at weapons applications of the technology used in the craft he worked on – but said he was not involved any work on the craft other than figuring out how the reactor worked.

In 2026, Chris Ramsey’s YouTube channel “Area 52” published a new interview with Lazar, which promoted a new film “S4 the Bob Lazar Story” about him. For this film, Luigi Vendittelli has developed some sort of 3D virtual reality simulation of where Lazar allegedly worked. However, no new information was released in this interview and the same oddities remain unresolved.

Was Lazar working in Area 51, near Papoose lake, not at the S4 Lab, but at another lab? (The S4 Lab is at the Tonopah Test Range.) Was he really working on reverse engineering a flying saucer’s propulsion system?  Or was he was working on some black programme which was dealing in nuclear physics of some kind? Did he get a glimpse of other secret programmes inside Area 51 and was it these glimpses that resulted (a) in the sketches Michael Schratt analysed in his report and (b) Lazar knowing the timing of the test flights?

In other words, as Boyd Bushman implied, Lazar never disclosed what he was really working on at the time – even if he did relate some correct/true information about what he saw while inside Area 51. By Lazar circulating a false story about reverse engineering a craft (which apparently uses a nuclear fuel according to him), this helps to keep the details of actual programmes covered up – and attention is deflected away from some of the other aspects of these programmes. It seems that Lazar does exhibit some symptoms of either some form of post-hypnotic suggestion or other form “mind control.” Was this to help make his cover story that bit more convincing?

In the David Sereda/Boyd Bushman interview, Bushman showed Sereda a photo of a nuclear-powered plane.

Bushman’s Nuclear Powered Plane (date unknown)

Bushman also showed Sereda a schematic of an alleged nuclear-powered saucer (from the 1960s or 1970s according to Bushman). Was Lazar actually working on a successor to one of these aircraft, which used some type of nuclear fuel? Perhaps, initially, he only knew about the fuel – perhaps he was “drafted in” to work on some nuclear physics or chemistry project.

It could, perhaps have been some form of nuclear thermal or nuclear-electric propulsion? I always felt that the element 115 story, in relation to it being some kind of fuel, for the ET craft was disinformation. It is also the case that neither Bob Lazar, John Lear nor Gene Huff can give any real details about the alleged theft of this material.

So, perhaps Lazar’s story is that he was indeed working on something related to propulsion – but it wasn’t reverse engineering a flying disk. His use of the word “reactor” in his story, though, may be a clue to what he was really working on. It is interesting to note that Stanton Friedman, a strong critic of Lazar,^[xxiii] also worked on secret Nuclear Powered aircraft projects^[xxiv], before he became renowned for his UFO research efforts. Could it even be the case that the “Blackstar” craft that was sketched by Lazar and identified by Michael Schratt used some type of nuclear fuel?

Weighed against this, however, Lazar does sound sincere. If he wasn’t working on reverse-engineering a flying disk, why did he come out with his story in the first place? It’s possible there had been another security leak around the same time. Lazar’s story could then be used to discredit the real one if it surfaced somewhere.

Edgar Fouche and the TR3B Flying Triangle

In 2004, I became aware of another black programme/secret aircraft whistleblower by the name of Edgar Fouché. I later remembered I had come across him about 5 years earlier in 1999! He was featured in a brief segment of a UK documentary called “Riddle Of The Skies”. A sequence of events, which involved the research I had been doing into the events of Sept 11^th 2001, led me to come into contact with Ed Fouché and we became good friends.

Due to the importance of his disclosures, I want to include some details of his biography, so folks can check his credentials if they wish.

Ed was born in 1948 in Americius, Georgia. In the 1960s, having completed his High School education, Ed was drafted from college during the Vietnam conflict. He joined the USAF in 1967 and Ed was selected for the US Air Force Pararescue field and then, following an injury, retrained as an electronics and cryptographic specialist. His continually growing skills and knowledge in these and other areas led him to gain a top secret “crypto” clearance. He then spent about 20 years in the US military and another decade working for defence contractors, working across many levels of the military. All these factors led him, in the mid-late 1970s, to work, for some short periods, in top secret facilities in the Nevada Test Site – known as Area 51. This brought him into contact with some advanced digital technology – which, as part of his work, he held in his hands.

He had gained many awards for the high standards of his work. His reputation meant that his skills were often sought after by the people high up in his chain of command. People came to know and trust him (as did I). Over time, various people gave him their own accounts of incredible technologies and programmes that they had witnessed or worked on or knew about.

In the early 1990s, with the help of a few close friends, even though they knew that they would be putting themselves at risk of reprisals, the decision was made that they would disclose to the world what they knew – that the US government had been covering up the development of advanced, potentially world-changing technologies.

Ed collected together many documents to back up what he was presenting. Some documents were extremely sensitive and therefore had names or dates blacked out or deleted.

After years of careful research, interviewing, writing and preparation, Ed made his first disclosures in 1998, at a number of public presentations – including MUFON and IUFOC events in the USA.^[xxv] (The 1998 IUFOC presentation contains nearly all of the essential information I will refer to here.)

Ed had also written down much of the information in the form of a book, also published in 1998, which was co-authored  with Brad Steiger. The book was called “Alien Rapture – The Chosen”^[xxvi] and it used Ed’s life as a “canvas” on which was “painted” the information he was disclosing. Due to the legal advice he received, most of the characters and scenarios in the “painting” are presented as fictional, but essentially, they are based on real people and true events. Ed repeatedly stated that the only thing in his book that was fiction was the ‘Alien Agenda.’

As well as being an author, Ed was also an artist and he even wrote some poetry. Ed Fouché passed away on 11 May 2017, having been in and out of hospital several times, whilst remaining in good spirits and well enough to talk to me and others he knew.

Getting to Know Ed Fouché

In late 2013, Ed Fouché contacted me, following a dispute he had had with his friend Jeremy Rhys (who uses/used a pseudonym of “Alien Scientist” – he eventually turned against Ed and spent much time trying to debunk Ed’s account and smear his character). In January 2014, Ed asked me to record some interviews with him, to help set the record straight about what he had done and said. You can listen to these interviews on YouTube, or examine copies of the documents that he released to the public over the years.^[xxvii] In the five hours of interviews, and in other conversations I had with Ed, I learned what an amazing life he had led. Ed survived injuries that would be fatal in most cases. When I got to know Ed, he was suffering from COPD, diabetes and other problems. Not surprisingly, he continued to have ongoing health problems, but he remained very active in many areas – and in speaking to him, you may not have even realised he had such health conditions. (Listen to our interviews!)

I got to know a little bit about his family – he was a grandfather and as he explained in our interviews, when he was being attacked on websites and forums after his “disappearance” in about 2000, he decided he had to try to address the lies that were being told about him, because he had a family who might read these lies and “not know what to think.”

Ed Fouché’s Career – A Summary

As implied above, Ed had a distinguished career, which you can get an impression of if you look at this document released to a researcher called David Hilton  in an FOIA (see below). People tried to say, of course, that Ed didn’t even work in the air force and had “no proof” of his claims. As he said himself, he had 900 documents which proved otherwise – and he produced 200 of these in 1998, because he knew that people would need to see them to understand that he was “the real deal.”

He was considered an Air Force expert, with experience in working with classified electronics counter-measures test equipment, crypto-logical test equipment (owned by the National Security Agency), and Automatic Test Equipment. He worked with many of the leading military aircraft and electronics manufacturers in the US and DoD contractors and therefore participated as a key member in design, development, production, and Flight-Operational-Test and Evaluation. He worked in classified aircraft development programs, with state-of-the-art avionic, electronic countermeasures, satellite communications, crypto-logical and support equipment.

During his military career, he was “handpicked” for many of the Air Force’s newest fighter and bomber development programs – some of which were secret. He had a “Q clearance”  and this enabled him to work on the F-117 at Edwards AFB, when it was top secret.

 

Here, it is important to note that Ed stated that he worked as a director of engineering on black programmes for “companies like” SAIC (look them up!) We will explore the likely significance of this in part 3.

In around 1993, he was told, due to his health issues, he had approximately 1 year to live – so he “didn’t care if the government came after him.” However, he also wanted to pursue his own projects and developments.

Area 51/Nellis AFB Work

Perhaps of greatest interest to readers of this and similar books was Ed’s description of his work in Area 51 – the Nevada Test Site – or whatever name you give it.

Ed had experience working in Electronic Counter Measures (ECM) and with satellite communications electronics. In about 1979, Ed’s friend wanted Ed to work in Area 51 – but Ed was enjoying his current work and didn’t want to work in the desert area, so declined the opportunity then. This friend must’ve suggested Ed for a job in Area 51, because he was asked to report to his commanding officer and told he “was needed on another job,” but he was not given any details. It was then due to a combination of coincidences and technical experience and certification that Ed was requested to be temporarily assigned to a place, which had no name. He was one of the few personnel at Nellis who had a Top Secret clearance with Crypto access. He was certified to work on Mode 4 IFF, (an aircraft system which responded to classified, encrypted codes.) In August 1979, he was told by his commander that he was to report to an office on the base, and that he didn’t have a clue where he was going or what he was going to be working on. Ed’s commander was unhappy to have been left in the dark.

Ed left one Monday morning long before sunrise. It was 4:30 AM when he boarded a dark blue Air Force bus with all of the windows blacked out. There were armed guards on the bus. No talking was permitted, and it was a “dusty, uncomfortable journey.”

Once he arrived, they had to walk from the bus to the work area. They were forced to wear “welders goggles” which blurred vision, but he could see over them slightly due to the goggles not fitting his large head too well. Ed explained that when wearing the goggles, he could see a short distance in front of him, but anything further away was blurred.

Ed worked in Area 51 for 10 days. His military records show he was re-assigned for these periods, but not the location that he was re-assigned to. Ed learned that he’d been assigned to “temporary duty.” Ed was “covering” for someone who had had a bereavement and was given leave. Ed explained that he had done some repairs to equipment, but the problems he had tried to fix recurred, so he had to stay there longer than was initially anticipated.

Ed has recounted how on the third day on the job at Groom Lake, he had to remove a “Direct Orbital Code (or Communications) Link” module from a multi-bay piece of satellite communications equipment to inspect/service it. This is when he found the circuit board had VLSI electronics – and a 1 GHz processor. The paper inspection stamp on the chip was dated 1975. (The 1GHz Pentium chip was not seen in the “white world” until 2000).

In our interview Ed told me that he had checked the signals on the chip using a portable oscilloscope and a frequency counter to determine this figure. Ed was also looking at other test points on the board and he told me (in Part 4 of our interview^[xxviii]):

I’m thinking “orbital communications link” and then I’m going like – okay it’s gotta be just satellite communications. And of course, you know we didn’t have a space shuttle back then [it was launched into space a couple of years later]. But the thing was modulated… the frequency this  very high frequency…I think it’s like 800 megahertz to 1gigahertz, but the modulated frequency… but the modulation of the transmitted signal was audio – human voice audio – and I’m sitting there you know… I really just sat back and looking through the schematics and I’m doing some test points here and there… and I’m goin’ like “Who the hell are they talking to up there?”

I’d never seen any type of … I had worked on satellite communications gear, but it was all telemetry … but I had never worked on satellite communication that was encrypted … that was also modulated to audio frequencies –which is voice.

This seemed to confirm that black programmes have technology at least 20 years ahead of the white world.

During his time working on classified programmes (I am not sure exactly when), Ed overheard talk of exotic technologies including “Quasicrystals”. This is an important piece of evidence which Ed mentioned in his 1998 IUFOC presentation.

Now that we have established the credibility of Master Sergeant Edgar Fouche, in part 3 we will discuss his disclosures about the operational characteristics of the TR-3B flying triangle. The main disclosure that Fouche made was that the TR3B operated on a principle of “Magnetic Field Disruption” – a technique which reduced the force of gravity on the craft by 89%. These disclosures may be familiar to many readers – even if Edgar Fouche’s name is not – because many other speakers and researchers have described what he described – without giving full (or any) credit to the original source of this important information.

Also in part 3, we will cover how a technology that affects gravity has been perfected and used in some kind of weapons system.

 

Part 1 — Part 2 — Part 3