FW: Should 9/11 Truth support Rep Kucinich’s proposal for a 9/11 Tru

From: Andrew Johnson

Date: 2008-09-23 12:02:52

This sounds like a good idea. I have some concern, in discussion with others, that Kucinich or someone close to him would propose that the commission includes of:   Robert Bowman Steven E Jones David Ray Griffin   and maybe Kevin Ryan.   This would not be a good thing (for those new to this list, please watch a presentation I gave in July:   www.checktheevidence…   A     —–Original Message—–From: nuclear.free.zone@gm… [mailto:nuclear.free.zone@gm…]On Behalf Of CAMPAIGNSent: 23 September 2008 01:44To: CAMPAIGNSubject: Should 9/11 Truth support Rep Kucinich’s proposal for a 9/11 Truth & Reconciliation Commission? – WEIGH IN WITH YOUR COMMENTS Should 9/11 Truth support Rep Kucinich’s proposal for a 9/11 Truth & Reconciliation Commission? – WEIGH IN WITH YOUR COMMENTS To Barbara Honneger from Alfred Webre Dear Barbara- Hi! Thank you for your email comments on a possible 9/11 Truth & Reconciliation Commission.  My understanding is that Rep Kucinich has not yet introduced his proposal, so I am holding my evaluation pending the release of his proposal.  If it is based on the South Africa Truth & Reconciliation Commission, or some similar restorative justice approach, the process and result is not as you describe it in your comment. South Africa Truth & Reconciliation Commission   

These were the multipe functions of the South Africa Truth & Reconciliation Commission (See article below): The work of the TRC was accomplished through three committees: The Human Rights Violations Committee investigated human rights abuses that occurred between 1960 and 1994. The Reparation and Rehabilitation Committee was charged with restoring victims’ dignity and formulating proposals to assist with rehabilitation. The Amnesty Committee considered applications from individuals who applied for amnesty in accordance with the provisions of the Act. One positive function of the South Africa Truth & Reconciliation Commission was to allow and encourage Whistleblowers to come forward from the and to give full evidence, in return for a structured amnesty judgment in accordance with legislated rules and procedures. Applying analogous functions to a 9/11 Truth & Reconciliation Process, I beleive, could be very beneficial and move the process of bringing restorative justice to the War Crimes of 9/11. To Wit: 1.  An Independent Investigations Committee, funded by public funds, with subpoena power, to investigate what occured on 9/112.  A Reparations and Rehabilitation Committee to document fully all of the lateral effects of 9/11, ranging from the erosion of civil liberties through the Patriot Acts, Dept of Homeland Security (DHS); Afghan and Iraq Wars, and to oversee rehabilitation of the victims of 9/11, includng the US Constitution.3.  A Statutory Amnesty Committee by which individuals with criminal culpability for 9/11 can – in return for full evidentiary disclosure and states evidence – receive a negotiated amnesty.  This latter provision would have to be carefully drafted to deal with the issue of the chief planners of the serious war crimes aspects of 9/11 and its aftermath.  However, that is a “doable” legal task. Why oppose a restorative justice approach?  Opposing it gets us nowhere and leaves the current USA stalemate in place. There is a growing field of the application of restorative justice to war crimes, which we addressed at the Vancouver 9/11 Conference and at the Madison 9/11 Conference and at the New York 9/11 Conference (2007).  This is the coming standard in international war crimes adjudication, replacing retributive justice. If you are thinking that the main “culprits” of 9/11 will escape legal liability in a restorative justive process, you are wrong.  It is much more likely we will obtain direct evidence and witnesses with a restorative justice approach. I urge you to reconsider your position and put your considerable talents to creating an effective solution here. I am posting this at the URL below, so people can register their comments if they wish. Thank you, Alfred Webre VIEW/COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE: peaceinspace.blogs.c… en.wikipedia.org/wik… Truth and Reconciliation Commission (South Africa) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Apartheid in South Africa Events and Projects Sharpeville Massacre · Soweto uprisingTreason TrialRivonia Trial · Church Street bombingCODESA · St James Church massacre Organisations ANC · IFP · AWB · Black Sash · CCBConservative Party · ECC · PP · RPPFP · HNP · MK · PAC · SACP · UDFBroederbond · National Party · COSATUSADF · SAP People P. W. Botha · Oupa Gqozo · D. F. MalanNelson Mandela · Desmond Tutu · F. W. de KlerkWalter Sisulu · Helen Suzman · Harry SchwarzAndries Treurnicht · H. F. Verwoerd · Oliver TamboB. J. Vorster · Kaiser Matanzima · Jimmy KrugerSteve Biko · Mahatma Gandhi · Trevor Huddleston Places Bantustan · District Six · Robben IslandSophiatown · South-West AfricaSoweto · Vlakplaas Other aspects Apartheid laws · Freedom CharterSullivan Principles · Kairos DocumentDisinvestment campaignSouth African Police This box: view • talk • edit This is about the South African body. For similar bodies in other countries, see Truth commission. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) was a court-like body assembled in South Africa after the abolishment of apartheid. Anyone who felt that he or she was a victim of its violence was invited to come forward and be heard. Perpetrators of violence could also give testimony and request amnesty from prosecution. The TRC, the first of the nineteen held internationally to stage public hearings, was seen by many as a crucial component of the transition to full and free democracy in South Africa. Despite some flaws, it is generally (although not universally) thought to have been successful. Contents[hide] 1 Creation and mandate 2 Committees 3 Findings 4 Impact 5 Media coverage 6 Criticisms 7 See also 8 References 9 Bibliography 9.1 Non-Fiction 9.2 Fiction 10 External links [edit] Creation and mandate The TRC was set up in terms of the Promotion of National Unity and Reconciliation Act, No. 34 of 1995, and was based in Cape Town. The mandate of the commission was to bear witness to, record and in some cases grant amnesty to the perpetrators of crimes relating to human rights violations, reparation and rehabilitation. The TRC had a number of high profile members: Archbishop Desmond Tutu (chairman), Dr. Alex Boraine (Deputy Chairman), Mary Burton, Advocate Chris de Jager, Bongani Finca, Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela, Sisi Khampepe, Richard Lyster, Wynand Malan, Reverend Khoza Mgojo, Hlengiwe Mkhize, Dumisa Ntsebeza (head of the Investigative Unit), Wendy Orr, Advocate Denzil Potgieter, Mapule Ramashala, Dr. Faizel Randera, Yasmin Sooka and Glenda Wildschut. [edit] Committees The work of the TRC was accomplished through three committees: The Human Rights Violations Committee investigated human rights abuses that occurred between 1960 and 1994. The Reparation and Rehabilitation Committee was charged with restoring victims’ dignity and formulating proposals to assist with rehabilitation. The Amnesty Committee considered applications from individuals who applied for amnesty in accordance with the provisions of the Act. Public hearings of the Human Rights Violations Committee and the Amnesty Committee were held at many venues around South Africa, including Cape Town (at the University of the Western Cape), Johannesburg (at the Central Methodist Mission), and Randburg (at the Rhema Bible Church). The commission was empowered to grant amnesty to those who committed abuses during the apartheid era, as long as the crimes were politically motivated, proportionate, and there was full disclosure by the person seeking amnesty. To avoid victor’s justice, no side was exempt from appearing before the commission. The commission heard reports of human rights violations and considered amnesty applications from all sides, from the apartheid state to the liberation forces including the African National Congress. 5392 people were refused amnesty and 849 were granted amnesty, out of 7112 petitioners (there were a number of additional categories, such as withdrawn). [edit] Findings The commission brought forth many witnesses giving testimony about the secret and immoral acts committed by the Apartheid Government, the liberation forces including the ANC, and other forces for violence that many say would not have come out into the open otherwise. On October 28, 1998 the Commission presented its report, which condemned both sides for committing atrocities. [edit] Impact The TRC sharply contrasted the Nuremberg Trials from WWII, and the subsequent prosecutions of former Nazis and Nazi sympathizers. Due to the perceived success of the reconciliatory approach in dealing with human-rights violations after political change either from internal or external factors, other countries have instituted similar commissions, though not always with the same scope or the allowance for charging those currently in power. The success of the “TRC method” versus the “Nuremberg method” of prosecution (as seen used in Iraq) is open for debate. [edit] Media coverage During April 1996 the South African national television corporation broadcast seven hours of the hearings live for the first week. The rest of the hearings were presented on television each Sunday from April 1996 to June 1998 in hour-long episodes of the “Truth Commission Special Report” by progressive Afrikaner journalist Max du Preez, former editor of the Vrye Weekblad [1]. The producers of the program included Anneliese Burgess, Jann Turner, Benedict Motau, Gael Reagon, Rene Schiebe and Bronwyn Nicholson, a production assistant.[2] Various films have been made about the commission: Facing the Truth (1999) by Bill Moyers. 2-part PBS series. Forgiveness (2004) directed by Ian Gabriel. A South African feature film starring South African-born actor Arnold Vosloo as a disgraced ex-cop seeking forgiveness from the family of the activist he killed under the Apartheid regime. With Quanita Adams and Zane Meas. In My Country (2004), very loosely based on Country of My Skull, an autobiographical text by Antjie Krog which dealt with her coverage of the hearings, starring Samuel L. Jackson and Juliette Binoche Long Night’s Journey into Day (2000) by Frances Reid. Documentary. Red Dust (2004), based on the novel of the same title by Gillian Slovo, starring Hilary Swank, Jamie Bartlett and Chiwetel Ejiofor Zulu Love Letter (2004) directed by Ramadan Suleman and starring Pamela Nomvete. Several plays have been produced about the TRC: “Truth in Translation” (2006), by Paavo Tom Tammi, in collaboration with American director, Michael Lessac and the company of Colonnades Theatre Lab, South Africa. Ubu and the Truth Commission (1997), by Jane Taylor and William Kentridge. Nothing but the Truth (2002), by John Kani The Story I Am About to Tell, created in collaboration with the Khulumani support group The Dead Wait, by Paul Herzberg Some of Ingrid de Kok’s poetry in Terrestrial Things (2002) deals with the TRC (e.g. The Archbishop Chairs the First Session, The Transcriber Speaks, The Sound Engineer). [edit] Criticisms A 1998 study by South Africa’s Centre for the Study of Violence and Reconciliation & the Khulumani Support Group,[1][3] which surveyed several hundred victims of human-rights abuse during the Apartheid era, found that most felt that the TRC had failed to achieve reconciliation between the black and white communities. Most believed that justice was a prerequisite for reconciliation rather than an alternative to it, and that the TRC had been weighted in favour of the perpetrators of abuse.[2][3] Another dilemma facing the TRC was how to do justice to the testimonials of those witnesses for whom translation was necessary. It was believed that, with the great discrepancy between the emotions of the witnesses and those translating them, much of the impact was lost in interlingual rendition. A briefly-tried solution was to have the translators mimic the witnesses’ emotions, but this proved disastrous and was quickly scrapped.[4] While former president F.W. de Klerk appeared before the commission and reiterated his apology for the suffering caused by apartheid, many black South Africans were angered at amnesty being granted for human rights abuses committed by the apartheid government. The BBC described such criticisms as stemming from a “basic misunderstanding” about the TRC’s mandate,[5] which was to uncover the truth about past abuse, using amnesty as a mechanism, rather than to punish past crimes. Among the highest-profile of these objections were the criticisms levelled by the family of prominent anti-apartheid activist Steve Biko, who was killed by the security police, and whose story was later featured in the film Cry Freedom.[6] Biko’s family described the TRC as a “vehicle for political expediency”, which “robbed” them of their right to justice.[7] The family opposed amnesty for his killers on these grounds and brought a legal action in South Africa’s highest court, arguing that the TRC was unconstitutional. On the other side of the spectrum, former apartheid State President P.W. Botha defied a subpoena to appear before the commission, calling it a “circus”. His defiance resulted in a fine and suspended sentence, but these were overturned on appeal.[8] Playwright Jane Taylor, responsible for the acclaimed Ubu and the Truth Commission, found fault with the Commission’s lopsided influence: The TRC is unquestionably a monumental process, the consequences of which will take years to unravel. For all its pervasive weight, however, it infiltrates our culture asymmetrically, unevenly across multiple sectors. Its place in small rural communities, for example, when it establishes itself in a local church hall, and absorbs substantial numbers of the population, is very different from its situation in large urban centres, where its presence is marginalised by other social and economic activities.[9] [edit] See also Truth commission The Civil Cooperation Bureau, an apartheid hit squad much discussed in the final TRC report.[10] [edit] References ^ “Survivors’ Perceptions of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission and Suggestions for the Final Report”.  Centre for the Study of Violence and Reconciliation. Retrieved on 2006-12-26. ^ Storey, Peter (September 10-17, 1997). “A Different Kind of Justice: Truth and Reconciliation in South Africa”. The Christian Century. Retrieved on 2006-12-26.  ^ As William Kentridge, director of Ubu and the Truth Commission, put it, “A full confession can bring amnesty and immunity from prosecution or civil procedures for the crimes committed. Therein lies the central irony of the Commission. As people give more and more evidence of the things they have done they get closer and closer to amnesty and it gets more and more intolerable that these people should be given amnesty.” (Kentridge 2007, p. viii) ^ Kentridge 2007, p. xiv. ^ Barrow, Greg (October 1998). “South Africans reconciled? Special Report”.  BBC. Retrieved on 2006-12-26. ^ “Stephen Bantu Biko”.  South African History Online. Retrieved on 2006-12-26. ^ “Apartheid enforcer sticks to ‘farcical’ story on Biko killing”.  Findarticles.com. Retrieved on 2007-10-24. ^ Boddy-Evans, Alistair. “PW Botha – A Biography”.  About.com. Retrieved on 2006-12-26. ^ Taylor 2007, p. v. ^ TRC Final Report – Version 6 [edit] Bibliography [edit] Non-Fiction Bell,Terry, Dumisa Buhle Ntsebeza, and Dumisa Buhle Ntzebeza. 2003. “Unfinished Business: South Africa, Apartheid and Truth.” Boraine, Alex. 2001. “A Country Unmasked: Inside South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission.” Edelstein, Jillian. 2002. “Truth and Lies: Stories from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in South Africa.” Gobodo-Madikizela, Pumla. 2006. “A Human Being Died That Night: A South African Story of Forgiveness.” Hendricks, Fred. 2003. “Fault-Lines in South African Democracy: Continuing Crisis of Inequality and Injustice.” Kentridge, William. “Director’s Note”. In Ubu and the Truth Commission, by Jane Taylor, viii-xv. Cape Town: University of Cape Town Press, 2007. Khoisan, Zenzile. 2001. Jakaranda Time: An Investigator’s View of the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission Krog, Antjie. 2000. “Country of My Skull: Guilt, Sorrow, and the Limits of Forgiveness in the New South Africa.” Moon, Claire. 2008. “Narrating Political Reconciliation: South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission.” Ross, Fiona. 2002. “Bearing Witness: Women and the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in South Africa.” Tutu, Desmond. 2000. “No Future Without Forgiveness.” Villa-Vicencio, Charles and Wilhelm Verwoerd. 2005. “Looking Back, Reaching Forward: Reflections on the Truth and Reconciliation Commission of South Africa.” Wilson, Richard A. 2001. “The Politics of Truth and Reconciliation in South Africa.” [edit] Fiction Taylor, Jane. Ubu and the Truth Commission. Cape Town: University of Cape Town Press,

Related articles...

Comments are closed.