From: Andrew Johnson
Date: 2009-05-08 23:35:50
www.checktheevidence… The Mysterious $5000 Bet to Andrew Johnson 08 May 2009 Some time ago, I had an e-mail exchange with someone and posted part of it on a web page here on this site. For some reason, this person didnt seem happy with what they had written and asked me to remove it. I complied as I didnt know enough about this person to decide what their motivation was. Today, this same person contacted me again and after a fairly normal exchange where this person followed the usual pattern of making disparaging remarks and ignoring evidence, they seemed to be making a bet for $5000! Wow! Was this another Ace Baker in the making? The e-mail exchange is reproduced below. (Why did he respond again after I had said I would report him for spamming me?) Isnt it strange this person thinks I should trust him when: 1) He went back on his word (contacted me soon after saying bye). 2) He ignores evidence. 3) Offers me a bet of $5000 (does he think I respond to those e-mails from Nigeria?!?) I leave you to draw your own conclusion. —–Original Message—– From: Sent: 08 May 2009 19:40 To: ad.johnson@ntlworld…. Subject: Re: Active Thermitic materials Hi Andrew, Just visited your website today to look at your response to Steven Jones anti-thermitic paper. You haven’t yet added that the chief editor of the OCP Journal resigned recently. You may also be interested to know that a special thread has been started at JREF looking at the paper. There is some excellent analysis there. (title: New Thread to Discuss The Excellent Analysis of Jones latest paper ) ‘Professor Marie-Paule Pileni has resigned as editor-in-chief of the Open Chemical Physics Journal over the publication of the Niels Harrit et al paper, Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe, which she says she was unaware of’ btw, I noticed that your current efforts are getting so little traction that there isn’t even a current thread at JREF regarding the silly Hutchison pseudo-science and Judy Wood. Andrew, you seem like a nice man (I listened to a few of your interviews online) but you’re utterly wasting your time with this 9/11 conspiracy crap IMHO. Looks like you guys may have a chance to latch onto John Hutchison’s Hollywood career and make some money though – his ‘back to the future’ science experiments are perfect for TV, I think. John is a very smooth talker, very engaging – I’m sure he has you quite convinced. Have you ever visited his lab? I live quite close to him, since i live in downtown Vancouver and he’s in New Westminster. Strange huh? BTW I spent a fair amount of time looking at the substance of Dr. Wood’s 9/11 claims, in case it would be worthwhile to rebut some of them. My conclusion is that it isn’t even worth rebutting, most of it is so amateurish and idiotic. Forgive me for the scorn, but you guys bring it on yourselves. Y’know, if you guys were just exploring the possibilities of ‘free energy’ without the baggage of 9/11 conspiracy, it would actually be kind of cool. I suspect 9/11 is a convenient and seductive subject to latch onto, to get attention from, in a kind of vampirical way, but I predict that you and Judy will fail in the quest to prove anything, since what you are currently proposing is exceedingly unlikely to be true. I also predict you guys will steadily refocus on general pseudo-science, especially free energy stuff, since there’s a decent market to exploit. That actually makes sense to me. But solve the mysteries of 9/11? Nope. You guys are barking up the wrong tree, big time. —–Original Message—–From: Andrew Johnson [mailto:ad.johnson@ntlworld….]Sent: 08 May 2009 20:04To: TruthersSubject: RE: Active Thermitic materials I know about the JREF thread and the resignation. Andrew, you seem like a nice man (I listened to a few of your interviews online) but you’re utterly wasting your time with this 9/11 conspiracy crap IMHO. OK – so who did 9/11? Do you care? Al Qaida? Bush? It doesn’t bother you? What’s your explanation for the evidence? Looks like you guys may have a chance to latch onto John Hutchison’s Hollywood career and make some money though – his ‘back to the future’ science experiments are perfect for TV, I think. John is a very smooth talker, very engaging – I’m sure he has you quite convinced. Have you ever visited his lab? I live quite close to him, since i live in downtown Vancouver and he’s in New Westminster. Strange huh?BTW I spent a fair amount of time looking at the substance of Dr. Wood’s 9/11 claims, in case it would be worthwhile to rebut some of them. My conclusion is that it isn’t even worth rebutting, most of it is so amateurish and idiotic. Forgive me for the scorn, but you guys bring it on yourselves. Thanks for proving me right again!! www.opednews.com/pop… No discussion evidence, just disparaging remarks! I can add your e-mail to my archive of “rude anonymous (or semi-anonymous evidence ignorers”. Why are you wasting your time writing to me? What do you want from life? You want to maintain the corrupt system we live in – or do you want something different? In either case, there’s little point in writing to me with sorts of remarks you are making Goodbye and good luck – I’ll feel sorry for you tonight. ADJ —–Original Message—–From: Sent: 08 May 2009 21:15To: ad.johnson@ntlworld….Subject: Challenge OK Andrew,I just had an idea, thought I’d run it by you. You seem convinced that some shadowy government conspiracy used DEW to destroy the WTC buildings. Yes?You seem to believe that you’re actually going to accomplish something (god knows what) thru your activities. Yes?You know I think you guys are acting like a couple of twits going nowhere fast. Yes?Ok, here’s the challenge. You have your ‘evidence’ and I have my skepticism. I’d be willing to put $5000.00 in trust if you’ll do the same, on a simple wager: If you and Judy can come up with a criminal conviction in a US court of law (probably supreme court) of a government agent or agency for using some kind of ‘molecular dissociation’ beam weapon to bring down or damage ALL the WTC buildings, turn cars and other vehicles upside down and whatever other bizarre and novel effects you claim, within, say 3 to 5 years from the start of the challenge – then you can have my 5K. If you can’t do it, I get your 5K.We could modify the wording as mutually agreed. Let’s see who the real idiots are, Andrew. You or me? I’m not worried about losing a fair wager since I know you guys don’t have, and never will have, the kind of evidence that could produce a convictiion in a US criminal court. In other words, you’ve got nothing but some cheap talk and pseudo-science, and you never will. Put your money where your mouth is if you dare. I don’t think you have the balls to do it, frankly. Put this up on your website if you want, let your readers see that I’ve made the challenge. I submit that your 9/11 pursuits are really about exploiting a tragedy for your own personal gain (fame? money?) and are not about getting justice for anybody.I’ll make some quick predictions now:1) you will either not respond to the challenge, or you will not accept a challenge along the lines I have proposed2) you will find excuse after excuse for avoiding the challenge, perhaps imposing some impossible condition which I can’t accept.3) you wil instead choose to return to your current modus, feeding on the fringe of science, making vague pseudo-scientific claims but taking little responsibility for them, and appearing on conspiracy talk radio shows. In other words, little more than bulding some kind of career in fringe science.4) your 9/11 work will never result in the criminal conviction of any alleged government agents or agencies for destroying the WTC towers and other buildingsThink it over. I could use an extra 5K so I hope you will take the challenge. —–Original Message—–From: Andrew Johnson [mailto:ad.johnson@ntlworld….]Sent: 08 May 2009 22:08To: TruthersSubject: RE: Challenge Summary of your last three messages: 1) Going back on what you said (i.e. “bye”) 2) Offering money in a bet (just like Ace Baker did to John Hutchison). 3) Being rude and disparaging whilst discussing no points of evidence. Please stop e-mailing me now – persistent further messages to me will be reported to Google mail as spam abuse. Thanks. Andrew —–Original Message—–From: Sent: 08 May 2009 23:09To: ad.johnson@ntlworld….Subject: Re: Challenge Andrew,Like I said, you’re putting yourself out there as some kind of legitimate inquiry – ‘check the evidence’.I offer a simple challenge to let you show your confidence, and you’re threatening to complain to google? Yikes! You’re much weaker than I expected. I have to admit, I hadn’t predicted that response. I figured you’d be too chicken to take up a financial challenge, so in that regard at least one of my predictions has already been proved correct. Thanks for confirming this so quickly.I’ll be sure to report your response to others online, so they can see how totally gutless you people are, and how you are parasitically feeding off a real tragedy to make careers for yourselves.As the saying goes, if you can’t take the heat…….best regards Are you interested in what’s really going on in the world, behind the facade? Then…www.checktheevidence… happened on 9/11?www.drjudywood.com/
