Anita M’s NDE… a rather remarkable one…

From: Andrew Johnson

Date: 2014-02-19 21:03:42

Attachments : Recently, someone was kind enough to send me a copy of the book mentioned below. The book itself referenced the original posting from NDERF (nead death experience Research Foundation), which I have pasted below. You will likely find it to be a remarkable account – backed up by a 3-inch thick folder of medical evidence.     www.nderf.org/NDERF/…   Anita M’s NDE   NDERF INTERVIEW (Click here if you want to go directly to the interview) – Interview with Anita M  EXPERIENCE DESCRIPTION:

          I had cancer (Hodgkin’s Lymphoma), and on this morning, I could not move.  My husband rushed me to hospital, where, after doing scans, they diagnosed me with grade 4B lymphoma (the highest grade).  The senior oncologist looked at my report and told my husband that it was too late, and that my organs were now shutting down.  I only had 36 hours to live.  However, the oncologist said he would do whatever he could but prepared my husband that I would most likely not make it, as my organs were no longer functioning.  They started me on a chemotherapy drip as well as oxygen, and then they started to take tests, particularly on my organ functions, so that they could determine what drugs to use.  I was drifting in and out of consciousness during this time, and I could feel my spirit actually leaving my body.  I saw and heard the conversations between my husband and the doctors taking place outside my room, about 40 feet away down a hallway. I was later able to verify this conversation to my shocked husband.  Then I actually “crossed over” to another dimension, where I was engulfed in a total feeling of love.  I also experienced extreme clarity of why I had the cancer, why I had come into this life in the first place, what role everyone in my family played in my life in the grand scheme of things, and generally how life works.  The clarity and understanding I obtained in this state is almost indescribable.  Words seem to limit the experience – I was at a place where I understood how much more there is than what we are able to conceive in our 3-dimensional world.  I realized what a gift life was, and that I was surrounded by loving spiritual beings, who were always around me even when I did not know it.   The amount of love I felt was overwhelming, and from this perspective, I knew how powerful I am, and saw the amazing possibilities we as humans are capable of achieving during a physical life.  I found out that my purpose now would be to live “heaven on earth” using this new understanding, and also to share this knowledge with other people.  However I had the choice of whether to come back into life, or go towards death.  I was made to understand that it was not my time, but I always had the choice, and if I chose death, I would not be experiencing a lot of the gifts that the rest of my life still held in store.  One of the things I wanted to know was that if I chose life, would I have to come back to this sick body, because my body was very, very sick and the organs had stopped functioning.  I was then made to understand that if I chose life, my body would heal very quickly.  I would see a difference in not months or weeks, but days!   I was shown how illnesses start on an energetic level before they become physical.  If I chose to go into life, the cancer would be gone from my energy, and my physical body would catch up very quickly.  I then understood that when people have medical treatments for illnesses, it rids the illness only from their body but not from their energy so the illness returns.  I realized if I went back, it would be with a very healthy energy.  Then the physical body would catch up to the energetic conditions very quickly and permanently.  I was given the understanding that this applies to anything, not only illnesses – physical conditions, psychological conditions, etc.  I was “shown” that everything going on in our lives was dependant on this energy around us, created by us.  Nothing was solid – we created our surroundings, our conditions, etc. depending where this “energy” was at.  The clarity I received around how we get what we do was phenomenal!  It’s all about where we are energetically.  I was made to feel that I was going to see “proof” of this first hand if I returned back to my body.  I know I was drifting in and out between the two worlds, but every time I drifted into the “other side”, I was shown more and more scenes.  There was one which showed how my life had touched all the people in it – it was sort of like a tapestry and showed how I affected everyone’s lives around me.  There was another which showed my brother on a plane, having heard the news I was dying, coming to see me (this was verified to me as when I started to come round, my brother was there, having just got off a plane).  I then saw a glimpse of my brother and me and somehow seemed to understand it was a previous life, where I was much older than him and was like a mother to him (in this life, he is older than me).  I saw in that life I was very protective towards him.  I suddenly became aware he was on the plane to come and see me, and felt “I can’t do this to him – can’t let him come and see me dead”.  Then I also saw how my husband’s purpose was linked to mine, and how we had decided to come and experience this life together.  If I went, he would probably follow soon after.  I was made to understand that, as tests had been taken for my organ functions (and the results were not out yet), that if I chose life, the results would show that my organs were functioning normally.  If I chose death, the results would show organ failure as the cause of death, due to cancer.  I was able to change the outcome of the tests by my choice!    I made my choice, and as I started to wake up (in a very confused state, as I could not at that time tell which side of the veil I was on),  the doctors came rushing into the room with big smiles on their faces saying to my family “Good news – we got the results and her organs are functioning – we can’t believe it!!  Her body really did seem like it had shut down!”  After that, I began to recover rapidly.  The doctors had been waiting for me to become stable before doing a lymph node biopsy to track the type of cancer cells, and they could not even find a lymph node big enough to suggest cancer (upon entering the hospital my body was filled with swollen lymph nodes).  They did a bone marrow biopsy, again to find the cancer activity so they could adjust the chemotherapy according to the disease, and there wasn’t any in the bone marrow.  The doctors were very confused, but put it down to me suddenly responding to the chemo. Because they themselves were unable to understand what was going on, they made me undergo test after test, all of which I passed with flying colors, and clearing every test empowered me even more!  I had a full body scan, and because they could not find anything, they made the radiologist repeat it again!!!!    Because of my experience, I am now sharing with everyone I know that miracles are possible in your life every day.  After what I have seen, I realize that absolutely anything is possible, and that we did not come here to suffer.  Life is supposed to be great, and we are very, very loved.  The way I look at life has changed dramatically, and I am so glad to have been given a second chance to experience “heaven on earth”.

Did the questions asked and information you provided so far accurately and comprehensively describe your experience? Yes   Click Here for Audio Answers to reader’s questions.  Anita also is a member of the forum!  http://www.nderf.com/phpBB2/index.php Supplementary Comments
In view of how remarkable this account is, I e-mailed some additional questions to Anita.  Her response is below the questions.
-Jeff, NDERF

My questions: 1.  You write remarkably well!!!  Have you lived in any English speaking area of the world for any period of time? 
2.  You had Hodkin’s Lymphoma.  Was this diagnosed by biopsy?  How was the diagnosis made? 
3.  How long after the chemotherapy was started did all the lymph nodes you had go completely away? 
4.  The fact that the medical tests, already done, would have their outcome changed depending on your choice is remarkable.  If you had chosen not to return to earth, do you have a sense when the medical tests would have changed- after your choice in earthly time, or would your choice have affected the tests at the time the blood was drawn which, in earthly time, I understand would have been before you made your choice to return to earth.  Any further comments you have on this would be greatly appreciated. 
5.  You said “It not only makes me feel that everything (including cancer)is not real (a shift in consciousness made it disappear!) but it also makes me feel very powerful, and I have a totally different understanding of life now.”  As a doctor who treats cancer, any further insights you have on this would be greatly appreciated. 
6.  Would the doctors who treated you be interested in communicating with me?  We would all need your prior approval to share information about your medical diagnosis and treatment.  If your doctors were interested in writing up your experience to publish it as a “case report” in the medical literature, I would be delighted to help in any way that I can.  This could certainly increase the awareness of NDE in your country. 
  Anita’s response: Thank you so much for your response, and on your compliments to my English!  I attended a British private school for my entire schooling here in Hong Kong, as this used to be a British colony up until 1997.  There were British schools set up specifically for the children of the British officers and most of the large corporations in Hong Kong were also run by British.  After I finished school, I did some further studies in Manchester, UK, but returned to Hong Kong after I finished.  I married someone here, who shared a very similar background as myself – a fellow ethnic Indian born and raised in Hong Kong, with no real attachment to our parents’ native country.  I have also been working here in Hong Kong. Before I go further, I just want to share with you that your e-mail gave me goose-bumps.  When I had my NDE, and I was able to see and perceive certain aspects of my future, I perceived that one of the reasons I had to go back was because I was supposed to touch and inspire people’s lives.  In that state, I somehow knew that I was meant to inspire thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people.  But it was not clear how I was meant to do it – I just knew I was supposed to be doing something to inspire people.  I specifically got the feeling that I didn’t need to do anything for this to happen, I just had to be myself and enjoy life.  Then recently, I had been thinking about this, and now that I am well and want to do something productive with my life, I have been trying to figure out what it is I am supposed to do that inspires others.  And this morning I got your e-mail which said “Over the years, tens of thousands of people will read your experience and, I am sure, be inspired.”  I now understand why I was made to feel I didn’t have to do anything!!  I was doing it by having the NDE!!!  Regarding your questions I am sorry if the answers seem a bit long, but I want to make it as clear as possible: About 3 and a half years ago, I had a needle biopsy on a swollen lymph gland at the base of my neck where it meets my shoulder on my left side, and the results indicated I had Hodgkin’s Lymphoma.  A scan then preliminary staged it at 1A at that time, however more tests still needed to be done.  If I can explain some details, which I did not think was necessary in my earlier account as it had nothing to do with the NDE itself:  My best friend had just died of cancer – she had a sarcoma in her chest area.  The sarcoma had been removed surgically, and then she was given chemo.  Her physical condition deteriorated very badly after starting the chemo, and continued to deteriorate until she died.  Her family felt very strongly it was the chemo that killed her, not the cancer.  I was with her through her experience, and watch her suffer through her chemo experience, which was horrific, and then watched her die.  This was my friend whom I had known since grade school, and we had grown up together.  When I was then subsequently diagnosed the same year she died, I was shocked, as were a lot of people in our circle of friends.  I was very, very afraid of chemo, so refused treatment, and went to see a naturopath who specialized in cancer treatment.  At first, the swollen lymph nodes seemed to be shrinking, and we felt the therapy was working, and I was very happy that I would not have to have chemo.  But although they got smaller, they did not disappear completely.  I was living in a lot of fear at that time – fear of the cancer, and fear of chemo.  I cleaned up my diet, did colon therapy, and took all the pills the naturopathic doctor gave me.  But around 2 years ago, the lymph nodes seemed to be growing again, and so the doctor changed my therapy, and also sent me to a herbal specialist.  Again, it seemed to come under control for a little while, but around 1 year ago, I started to develop fluid in my chest area, and also my left arm became swollen.  My doctor then performed a pleural effusion, and then the fluid came back and he performed the effusion several more times.  During this time, my glands were getting more and more swollen, until January, 2006, when my health deteriorated dramatically in a span of 2 or 3 weeks. My breathing became more and more laboured, I was always out of breath, and I needed to carry a portable oxygen machine.  I was losing weight, I could not eat, as I felt full all the time, my muscles were deteriorating to the point where I could not walk and was using a wheelchair, I had skin lesions which were oozing, and by February 2, I could not move.  I could not open my eyes, get out of bed, let alone even walk.   I just accepted that this was it, I was going to die, and I just completely let go.  I did not feel any pain, or discomfort.  I was not on any medication at that point – just a state of total release.  My husband rushed me to hospital, and I was assigned an oncologist who, after examining me, said “its too late.  There is nothing I can do.”  My husband pleaded with her, and she then relented to assign someone else, as she felt it would be a “waste of her time”, or perhaps she did not want my death on her record.  She was very annoyed with my naturopathic doctor, and felt it was his responsibility to send me to the hospital earlier, and made it clear that it was “his fault” that I was going to die. The scans showed that the lymphoma had spread throughout my body, and my organs were compromised.  My feet and hands now began to swell like balloons, and my face was all swollen.  The oncologist said “her organs have already shut down – she is dying of organ failure”.  Listening to my husband’s pleas, she called another oncologist, who said to my husband “I can’t promise anything, I’ll see what I can do.  However, the next 24 hours are critical.  She is too unstable to even perform a biopsy to determine what drugs to inject.  We will also begin to run the tests right away on her organ functions as all symptoms seem to indicate failure.”  This was the conversation that took place outside my room, some 40 feet away, and I heard and saw it, so I had obviously left my body at that time.  Anyway, I then became aware of all the needles poking me, and some kind of chemo drugs went into me, but I don’t know exactly what the mix was.  And I was connected to an oxygen machine, a food tube, something that monitored my heart, pulse, blood pressure, etc. etc.   The next morning, (after drifting between the two worlds through the night and after making my decision to come back into life) I started to feel more awake, and started to feel slightly more grounded in this world than that one, and that was when the doctors came in and said my organs were showing normal function.  I was still a bit fuzzy, and said something like “oh, I thought we knew that already”.  My brother had arrived, having been on a plane overnight, and by that evening, I was really awake and ready to sit up. My whole family started celebrating.  Within 4 days, my progress was remarkable, and I was transferred from the ICU to a normal private room.  There was significant reduction in my lymph nodes within those 4 days.  Because it now looked like I was going to make it, the doctor called for a wound specialist to look at my skin lesions.  When he first looked at them, he said that surgery would be needed as the skin had been “eaten away”, but he would wait until I became stronger.  However, my wounds healed miraculously over the weeks, and never needed surgery (one on the neck and one under the arm).  About a week after coming out of ICU, they performed a bone marrow biopsy, and could not find anything, and about 10 days after that, they performed a lymph node biopsy.  When I was sent for the lymph node biopsy, the radiologist could not find a lymph node big enough to even suggest cancer, however the oncologist pushed him to mark a lymph node on my body anyway which they biopsied and found nothing.  Each time, I knew the test results were going to be negative.  The oncologist however, wanted to run these tests so that he could determine what chemo drugs to use, but since he could not find anything, he said it is because I am responding extremely well to what he is currently using, so he will keep giving me that.  I said that if the cancer seems gone, why do I have to keep having the chemo, but he insisted that, even though my recovery was remarkable, he had to be sure to give me at least the minimum number of cycles, because of the state I was in when I came in.  He said he originally thought I would need a lot more cycles, but was now reducing it drastically to the minimum he ever gives which is six. I don’t know why, but I did not suffer major side effects from the chemo.  I was so charged by my NDE, it was as if nothing was going to get me down, and I now lost my fear of the chemo, and knew that I was going to be fine – better than fine.  In answer to question 3, the lymph nodes were visibly reduced by about 80% around 4 days after the chemo.  However, the biopsy was done about 2 weeks after that, where they could not find a lymph node to even suggest cancer.  They were waiting for my body to be stronger before conducting the biopsy, which is why it was not done earlier.  The bone marrow biopsy was done earlier, where they did not find anything. Question 4:  This is one of the points that is so hard to express with our limited 3 dimensional language.  Time seems to have a completely different meaning on that side.  What I felt was that all possibilities exist simultaneously – it just depends which one you choose.    Sort of like being in an elevator, where all the floors of a building exist, but you can choose which floor to get off on.  So if all the future possibilities exist for me to choose from, then I assume all the past scenarios exist too.  So depending which future possibility I choose, that will also determine which past automatically comes with it (I chose life, so it affected the past, choosing the appropriate test result for the organ function).  I hope I am making sense.  It’s very clear in my thoughts, but it is hard to write. When I was being presented the choice, I actually saw a vision of my lab report which said, on the heading:  Diagnosis:  Organ Failure.  Then on the body of the report:  Death due to organ failure caused by Hodgkin’s lymphoma.  When I actually saw the report after coming back, the sheet of paper looked almost identical, and the heading matched word for word:  Diagnosis: Organ Failure, however, the body read:  There is no evidence of organ failure.  I actually got goosebumps looking at that report, knowing what it could have read.  Question 5:  I now know that a lot more exists than we are consciously aware of or capable of understanding.  Each day, I am understanding more and more since the NDE.  I am finding out that there are things I now feel I “know” or “understand”, which I never did before.   The best example I can think of is:  imagine there is a huge warehouse, which is dark, and you live in this warehouse with one flashlight.  Everything you know about this warehouse is seen through the light of this one small flashlight.  Whenever you want to look for something, you may or may not find it, but it does not mean the thing does not exist.  It is there, but you just haven’t flashed your light on it.  You can only see what your light is focused on.  Then one day, someone flicks on a lightswitch, and for the first time, you can see the whole warehouse.  The vastness of it is almost overwhelming, you can’t see all the way to the end, and you know there is more than what you can see.  But you do see how all the products are lined up on all the shelves, and you notice just how many different things there are in the warehouse which you never noticed, never even conceived having existed, yet they do, simultaneously with the things you know existed (those are the things your flashlight had been able to find).  Then, even when the light switch goes back off, nothing can take away the understanding and clarity of your experience.  Even though you are back to one flashlight, you now know how to look for things.  You know what is possible, and you even know what to look for.  You start viewing things differently, and it is from this new springboard that your experiences start to happen.  And so I find that in my daily life, I am referring referring to different aspects of my experience at different times, and I am understanding things in a different way, and knowing things I did not know I knew. I saw all people as “energy”, and depending where our energy level was, that was the world we created for ourselves.  The understanding I gained from this was that if cancer was not in our “energy”, then it was not in our reality.  If feeling good about ourselves was in our energy, then our reality would be positive.  If cancer was in our energy, then even if we eradicated it with modern medicine, it would  soon come back.  But if we cleared it from our energy, the physical body would soon follow. None of us are as “real” or physical as we think we are.  From what I saw, it looked like we are energy first, and physical is only a result of expressing our energy.  And we can change our physical reality if we change our energy.  (Some people have mentioned I use the term “Vibration”).  For me, personally, I was made to feel that in order to keep my energy/vibration level up, I only had to live in the moment, enjoy every moment of life, and use each moment to elevate the next moment (which then elevates my future).  It is in that moment of elevating your energy level that you can change your future (like my test results).  It sounds very simplistic, but it felt very deep when I was experiencing the understanding of it.  Question 6:  As yet, I have not told my doctors of my NDE, because they seem a little old fashioned, and I don’t know how they will respond.  However, I am willing to give it a try.  I am seeing them on Thursday morning for a general check up, and I will broach the subject.  It had occurred to me earlier to mention it to them, but the time never felt right.  They had commented however, all through my stay in hospital, at how remarkable my recovery was.  I will keep you informed as to how it goes with them, and as long as they agree, I have no problems with you communicating with them. I hope I have been able to answer your questions.  I am very excited about being posted on your site, especially at the thought of being on the archives of the exceptional experiences.  My brother forwarded me the link to your site about 10 days ago, as he started to read up on NDEs after my experience, and I started to fill out the questionnaire immediately. NDERF INTERVIEW with Anita M. ©Anita M. 2006 www.nderf.org/anita_… Anita M. was born in Singapore and then lived in Sri Lanka until she was 2 years old.  An ethnic Sindhi woman from India, her family then moved to Hong Kong where she grew up speaking fluent Sindhi, Cantonese and English, as well as being conversant with a multitude of cultural idioms.  Although a Hindu by birth, she was educated first in Catholic schools and then in private English schools in Hong Kong and later studied in England before returning to Hong Kong to take a senior management position for a French fashion company where she traveled all over the world using her multi-cultural, multilingual background in a variety of business and social settings. In December 1995, she married her husband and soulmate, Danny, who loves her unconditionally (and still does, despite her becoming a NDE freak now).   In April 2002 she was diagnosed with Hodgkin’s Lymphoma and after nearly 4 years of battling the disease, she was taken to the intensive care unit of her local hospital in February 2006 where she was given less than 36 hours to live.  Her remarkable NDE and seeming miraculous recovery from cancer has created enormous interest and commentary on an international scale.   NDERF:  Hi Anita.  It’s nice to talk to you again.  It’s only been a few months since your NDE and recovery, so I was wondering how you are feeling these days?  Has media and public interest in your experience had any effect on your ability to come and go as you please? Physically, I’m feeling really great, thanks for asking.  I don’t recall having this much energy at my disposal ever before.  As for the media and public interest, that’s been a lot of fun.  It’s not that people recognize me straight off the bat, you know.  I mean, a lot of people have heard my story, but most don’t know what I look like, because they’ve mostly either read about me on the internet, or heard about me on the radio. (I’m becoming a regular on Chinese radio!!) It’s only when I introduce myself that people say “ohhhhh, so you’re the Anita that died!!” Another fun aspect is that I am getting a lot of invitations to attend social as well as spiritual gatherings.  What I love most is that people keep hugging me.  When they meet me, they say “I was really moved by your experience. Can I have a hug?” And of course, I say “sure!” I just love that part!! NDERF:  Yes, and I can see you are becoming expert at giving cyberhugs on the forum.  Now you can hug worldwide!  What has been the most difficult part adjusting to 3 dimensional reality since returning from your experience? That’s a good question.  The most difficult part is not being able now to see this world in the same way as everyone else does.  I don’t see things the same way as most people, nor can I process information in the same way I used to.  I can’t.  It feels like I have seen beyond this physical world, and I can’t go back to thinking the way I used to.  Sometimes I feel misunderstood.  One of my fears is of becoming lonely, should no one understand me. NDERF: Yes, I can imagine there would be a sense of loneliness that could come with an experience that is difficult to put into language.  Can you tell me more about how this way of thinking affects your physical reality?   When I was in the NDE state, it felt like I had woken up to a different reality.  It felt like I had awoken from the “illusion” of life, and from that perspective, it looked like my physical life was just a culmination of my thoughts and beliefs up to that point.  It felt like the whole world was just a culmination of the thoughts and beliefs of the collective.  That is, the culmination of everyone’s thoughts and beliefs.  It felt like nothing was actually real, but we made it real with our beliefs.  I understood that even my cancer was not real, it was also part of the illusion, so if I went back to my body, I would not have the cancer any more.  And another thing is that there was this incredible understanding of how we are all interconnected. And how what I felt within me affects my whole universe.  I felt one with everything.  I felt a connection with every living thing.  And it felt like the whole universe is within me. As far as I am concerned, if I am happy, the universe is happy. If I love myself, everyone else will love me. If I am at peace, the whole universe is peaceful. And so on. Also, time and space feel very different in that dimension.  It doesn’t feel linear, like it does here. It felt like everything was happening simultaneously.  I saw what could be interpreted as past lives, I saw what was happening currently (my brother on the plane, and conversations between my family members and doctors), and I also saw the future of this life pan out. (Message over 64 KB, truncated)